Who do you want to win on Saturday in the texas-Tech game?
by Beergut
on Oct 27, 2008 11:45 PM CDT
On the one hand, while they are our archrivals and, like many Aggies, my favorite team after A&M is whoever is playing texas that day, this is Tech we're talking about. I'm not sure I want people to think the premiere football program in Texas (much less the nation) is in Lubbock. You can't trust the Tech fans to not embarrass themselves.
There is also the fact that even if Tech wins the game, you know they're going to lose to OU and/or Oklahoma State later in the season.
On the other hand, it's texas, and any texas loss is a good loss.
Who do you want to win and why?
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texas wins
actually i should have voted for neither but thats not realistic so i will hope for a texas win and a huge upset (well there goes the realist) on turkey day in austin!
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Oct 28, 2008 7:44 AM CDT 0 recs
Oh my
I agree that if Tech wins, they will still probably lose before the Big 12 title game. But, better now than never. I could stand another national title from texas, but not one from tech.
I really, really am hoping that Leach will move up to another school so his career can go down the drain (not a very good HC IMO) and so Lubbock football can go back to mediocrity.
Of course, just like in the OU/texas game, I really wish that both teams would lose, but that’s a little impossible.
I would like for McCoy, Shipley, Harrell, Crabtree, and any other important players from the two teams to be out for the season for some reason (I’m not going to wish an injury on them). Maybe they curse out the coach and are cut from the team. The game then ends in a tie (I don’t even think that’s possible) because neither team can score in overtime. Both teams go winless through the rest of the season and the rest of eternity, allowing A&M to flourish and win a couple of National Championships. That would be a great day.
by carsondude on Oct 28, 2008 9:53 AM CDT 0 recs
I have no love for UT
but man I hate me some Tech. They are my least favorite NCAA team. When both teams are so high, I am pulling for Texas. If UT was 1 and Tech was, say, 24, I would probably pull for Tech in that circumstance.
by FuturePants on Oct 28, 2008 11:43 AM CDT 0 recs
I know you guys claim Texas as your main rival. But really. It’s Tech, isn’t it. C’mon, you can admit it. I won’t tell anyone : )
by Tech92 on Oct 28, 2008 9:18 PM CDT 0 recs
I can assure you
that is not the case.
I believe that texas is our rival. A classic rival. Our brothers go to texas while we choose A&M. Like McGee and Shipley, best friends since high school.
Tech on the other hand is kind of like that big fire ant pile in your backyard that keeps coming back. In the Civil War, as brothers and families fought each other for various reasons, tech is mexico, planning some sort of scheme in order to get into the mix. (No offense to Mexicans)
Our brothers don’t go to tech, the lower half of our graduating class goes to tech (after they rule out OSU).
Cheers
by carsondude on
Oct 28, 2008 9:48 PM CDT
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And it comes back to academics. Silly, meritless argument, but okay. What has always confounded me is the general concept out there that Aggie fans are classy, respectful, blah, blah, blah…yet, continually and pathologically disrespect Tech and it’s fans, their supposed lack of class, athletics, city, academics, girls, you name it.
The irony is delicious.
by Tech92 on
Oct 29, 2008 8:50 AM CDT
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It's also sports
How about Tech wins either 10 games in a season or a Big XII championship. Then we can talk rivalry.
by FuturePants on
Oct 29, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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Beating you on an annual basis doesn’t count I guess. But that’s the circular argument many Aggies make. I’m not trying to convince anyone to be a Tech fan or proclaim us a rival. I just find it ironic that the things you guys accuse us of are true of ANY college campus. We have asses, you have asses. You probably have more just because you’re a bigger campus.
by Tech92 on
Oct 29, 2008 4:46 PM CDT
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yeah
You’re right. I would call what I just wrote and throwing batteries at the opposing team the same. On one hand you have a “silly meritless argument” and on the other you have physical abuse. Which one would you call classless?
I don’t have much of a beef with Lubbock. Although no one that I know that has traveled there has enjoyed it. I did think it was ironic when I saw a tech shirt of the “top ten reasons not to go to A&M” or something like that. One of the reasons was College Station, the city. Now, if you’re a UT fan, sure you can dish out some B/CS hate because you’re city is obviously larger and has more “things” to do. But between Lubbock and College Station I don’t see much of a difference. My argument is that College Station is at least close to other places. Austin is an hour and a half away for ACL and other events, Houston is a an hour away. Galveston is 2 hours away. Dallas is three hours away, etc. Lubbock simply does not have these conveniences.
by carsondude on
Oct 29, 2008 11:23 AM CDT
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even though i am not a tech fan i have visited friends and my sister went to school there. I have never been to lbk and had a bad time. (ZTA’s are all hot)
i went last time texas played in lubbock and it was absolutly insane i wish i could go up there again this year this time it is going to be a mad house.
tech is a school where kids go to rebel and get as far away from home as possilbe not sure the drop out rate at tech but i would imagine it is pretty high.
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on
Oct 29, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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I don't understand
You prefer Lubbock because the students are rebels?
I like Lubbock ok I guess, and I have never had a bad experience with Tech fans other than their unrelenting need to shittalk everyone, all the time, but that’s part of college football, I suppose. Lubbock is in no way awesome, and neither is College Station. The people there, your fellow students, and the good times you have there make those towns fun…it has nothing to do with what chain restaurants or other conveniences are there because let’s face it, both towns suck.
by FuturePants on
Oct 29, 2008 12:18 PM CDT
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You are probably right about kids getting away from home, but to characterize it as a rebellion may be a little strong. It’s probably to get out on their own a little and experience life without mom being a 10 minute drive away. You paint it as some campus over-run with shady characters. Couldn’t be further from the truth.
Our drop out rate…I have no clue what it is.
by Tech92 on
Oct 29, 2008 4:51 PM CDT
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Keep in mind that Lubbock also has close to 240,000 people in the city. It’s not some small little town. They have a ballet, orchestra, etc, etc. Most major concert tours find their way to Lubbock, regardless of music style. We have some pretty cute chicks to while away the time, as well : )
My personal reason for choosing Tech was I wanted to play baseball there. I had no interest in A&M or UT at the time because, well, I didn’t enjoy my visit like I thought I would with the people in College Station that much. I wasn’t at all concerned with what traditions a school had and the Aggie recruiter overwhelmed us with all the one’s you guys have. It was weird to me, as a 17-year-old kid. The asst coach we met was a little bit of a prick, too (1985, not sure who it was). UT was just too big – full disclosure, they didn’t recruit me at all, either.
by Tech92 on
Oct 29, 2008 4:43 PM CDT
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For reference: the City of Plano has 250k people
…which is a suburb of Dallas. Bryan/College Station has almost 200k. Lubbock is small. Lubbock is backwater. Lubbock is no cultural hub, even with a ballet and orchestra, which you can find at pretty much any highschool across the country.
I’m glad you chose Tech and I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’m sure pretty much every student who attends Tech loves it. Same goes with pretty much every school all across the country. People choose what they choose for their own personal reasons, so why do you care if we went to A&M or Missouri or Vanderbilt? You chose what you chose and that’s great. Same goes for everyone else in America.
by FuturePants on
Oct 30, 2008 10:35 AM CDT
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That’s just it…I don’t care that you chose Texas A&M, or the reasons. It’s a great school and it has a lot of charm to it, along with the town. Whatever floats your boat.
I wasn’t at all trying figure out why you chose A&M.
I am aware that Lubbock is NOT the bastion of high society and great cultural confluences. But that’s one reason I actually liked it…I could be a broke-ass college kid and still have a blast for $10 on a Friday night. Same probably holds true down in College Station. It’s all good…
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 12:32 PM CDT
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when you see us start building a bonfire before the Tech game
then we can start talking rivalry
Until then, y’all need to quit trying so hard.
by Beergut on
Oct 30, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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Beergut, to be 100% honest, I don’t really care if Tech has a rivalry in the vein that you guys and UT have. It almost takes too much energy to get so worked up every year, in every sport. It’s fun the way it is…Aggies hate Tech (and I will assume it’s not personal that if you actually met me, you may actually have a good time sharing some suds and breaking bread), and vice versa. What is annoying is the blanket assumption that we are, A. stupid, B. have crap jobs, C. want to drop the mitts and fight at games, etc etc.
You guys get high marks with the degree of passion you display. But sometimes, sometimes, it goes from being about sports to about things that are completely irrelevant. I don’t know what you do for a living, but I am pretty confident I’d be doing the same thing and making the salary I make today if I went to UNT, UTEP, UT or A&M.
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
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I don’t think you are really trying to be in anyone’s face here, but arguing and/or comparing salaries between Tech and A&M grads is very shallow. Pretty much all of the statements here are about the schools themselves or the areas in which they are located. Let’s not bring money into this because that is utterly pointless.
by FuturePants on
Oct 30, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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You completely
missed the point and the context of it. I wasn’t bragging, I was saying that things likely wouldn’t be much different for me regardless of college choice.
by Tech92 on
Oct 30, 2008 4:03 PM CDT
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No, I didn't, but you did completely miss my point.
Comparing salaries – for whatever reason – is shallow. You were the only one on this thread to bring up money. Nobody was talking about salaries of Tech grads vs. A&M grads except you. You weren’t responding to any accusations, you were simply bringing up an unnecessary and shallow arguing point. Being so superficial for no reason doesn’t become the other alumni of your fine university.
by FuturePants on
Oct 31, 2008 8:55 AM CDT
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Dude...
I was simply saying that if I went to A&M, or wherever, my job and salary would not be any different…meaning, it’s not the school that you pick that makes your career or adds value to the degree, it’s what you do with it when you leave. It’s a commentary on the fact that Aggie fans typically will make a comment that the value and quality of a Tech education is below that of Aggie students. It’s not being shallow, it’s using it as an example. I never said if I have a high or low salary or mentioned that I have a better job than anyone here.
by Tech92 on
Oct 31, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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ok
why don’t both of yall send me your paychecks i will deposit both and make the final decision on which univeristy is better!
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on
Oct 31, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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well
What is annoying is the blanket assumption that we are, A. stupid, B. have crap jobs, C. want to drop the mitts and fight at games, etc etc
I don’t think all Tech grads are stupid, I just think y’all have a student body that has no idea how to act at games. Most Tech alumni I have met in person have been wonderful people.
I haven’t seen anyone say Tech people have crap jobs, except for the occasional joke about delivering pizza.
I don think y’all have some poor representative for your university who post online. I never have a problem having a rational discussion with you or Seth, but some people, like antiswarm or Skin Patrol, don’t seem to know how to have a civil conversation. When you find the need to cuss as much as Skin Patrol does in his comments, people are going to question your maturity and your intelligence. Posters like that reflect on your university.
I don’t know about part C, I have read too many comments from Tech fans saying they don’t want opposing fans to ever come to their venues to view games to think that reports from Aggies and others saying Tech fans are ridiculously hostile are inaccurate. I think some Tech fans have no idea what good sportsmanship really is.
by Beergut on
Oct 31, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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I think beer/whisky has a lot to do with some of the things people may have experienced, but that’s not a great excuse. Some fans really don’t show good sportsmanship, but that’s on the individual not the institution.
I hate that a negative interaction with a few select fans allows someone to paint all of the Tech fans universially with a black brush. While it’s garbage that someone is an a** to an opposing fan, it’s also not fair to characterize the entire student body/alumni as classless. It just doesn’t make any sense on a grown-up level…know what I mean?
I guess the beauty of college athletics is the passion surrounding it. The “mob mentality” most definitely can take over if just one or two people start saying or doing stupid things at a game. That’s unfortunate – and not unique to Tech.
The anonymity of the web allows perfectly rational and normally polite people to say irrational and impolite things without having to be held to any standard of decency or accountability.
I think it’s safe to say we live in the greatest state in the Union, so we do have that in common! And that’s better than nothing, eh?
by Tech92 on
Oct 31, 2008 8:59 PM CDT
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I still remember....
If you were a little older, you might remember back in the 70’s when some senior Corps members pulled their swords in anger on the sidelines….against some really dangerous SMU cheerleaders. The national press went crazy. These weren’t some drunk punks who may not even go to any given school, these were your leaders. Don’t talk to me about class.
by TT_ on
Nov 17, 2008 3:16 PM CST
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agree
both towns suck and it is the students that make each town fun. but the main difference is that the kids that choose tech choose them not so much for educational or tradition but because it is know to be a party school ( hence the useage of rebel), as far as most students of A&M go there for tradition to get an education and they have some connection to the university as far as family memebers etc.
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Oct 29, 2008 12:58 PM CDT 0 recs
So
Dumb party kids = awesome.
A&M nerds = not fun downers.
Does that sum it up?
Also, I’m not sure if “most” students of A&M go there because their folks went there. My parents went to Lamar University in Houston. I think it’s very reasonable to say that when you have a school of 50k students, many of them simply just choose to go there for a wide variety of reasons. Tradition, family, and academics, all play a part for at least some, but they all have different reasons. Personally, I didn’t even consider Texas Tech for undergrad or law school because I refuse to live in Lubbock – too cold.
by FuturePants on
Oct 29, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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i am not sure
why i am getting linked to a tech fan? really i went to a small school called tarleton state university (they do play on cstv on thursday for anybody intersted) but i have about 15 family members that are currently enrolled or graduated from a&m.
i prefer a&m but i am not going to say its no fun in lubbock
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on
Oct 29, 2008 4:41 PM CDT
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carsondude
" I don’t have much of a beef with Lubbock. Although no one that I know that has traveled there has enjoyed it"
the post before my -1
"Hey, I think it's easy for guys to hit .300 and stay in the big leagues. Hit .200 and try to stick around as long as I did; I think it's a much greater accomplishment. That's hard."-- Bob Uecker
by dmurphnextrusygreer on
Oct 30, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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Ah, I gotcha
Yeah, Lubbock is fine…not the most awesome place on earth, for sure, and neither is College Station. Some people love it there, so to each their own. Personally, I don’t dig the cold(er) weather, the no beer rule, the dirt, the occasional cowtown smell, the isolation, or the rural feel. Obviously, many of those apply to College Station, too, which I also found to be less than ideal, but great for 4 years of college.
by FuturePants on
Oct 30, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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just what I've heard
it’s all about perception. I’m sure I could have a bad ass time in Lubbock under the right circumstances (good friends, good drinks, etc.). I know a lot of UT kids that will NOT go to College Station because they assume they will have a bad time. And while they’re here they can’t enjoy themselves because they think they are too good for it (very general assumption). So I’m sure there are a lot of horns (and others) that will refuse to go to aggieland, and probably Lubbock too, simply because of their perceptions. When in truth, they’d probably be doing the same things in either place. (drinking with friends, going to a bar, etc.)
by carsondude on
Oct 30, 2008 3:02 PM CDT
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If you find a public college that ISN’T a party school in the state, let me know.
by Tech92 on
Oct 29, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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