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Kansas State Game Reaction

I've waited a while to write this game reaction, mainly to ensure I didn't speak out in pure emotion after the embarrassing 62-14 loss last night. My first reaction to this game is that we obviously weren't ready to play. Anyone who looks at the box score and sees that we had 5 turnovers and gave up 38 points in the first half, and 59 points in the first 35 minutes of the game. I don't know if we were overconfident going into this game (how can you be overconfident when you've lost back-to-back games?). We've now lost three straight games, after starting the season 3-0, and the losing doesn't look like its going to stop, not the way we're playing, as we head to Lubbock next week to play a Tech team that seems to be hitting its stride after dominating performances against that same Kansas State team that just whipped our asses, and Nebraska at home.

Probably the most embarrassing facet about this loss is that it came against a poor Kansas State team, a team that had already lost to Louisiana Tech, and in the view of its fans, was just playing out the season, trying to improve game by game. Well, we were supposed to be improving game by game on our way, hopefully, to a bowl game, in our second season under Sherman, and this game has set us all the way back to square one. All of the progress we have made this season disappeared with this one game. This was a return to the 2003 season, when we looked like we didn't belong on a college football field. Being as young as we are and as inexperienced as we are, I expected moments when we'd look like that this season; moments, NOT whole games.

If this season is to be salvaged, we're going to have to see a heckuva an effort out of this team next Saturday against Texas Tech. Previous to yesterday, I felt confident we'd go into Lubbock and give a good effort. After yesterday, I'm not sure what team will show up anymore. I do know that if we give the same effort we did yesterday in Lubbock, we'll give up 100 points in the game against Tech. This is their Super Bowl in Lubbock, and they'll be sky high for this game. If we still want to accomplish something this season and make it to a bowl game, this team needs to show up and play for a full sixty minutes. We can still take a step forward and show progress over last year this season, but that needs to start next weekend in Lubbock. Our players need to decide they want to play, and show up to the game. If they can't do that, we need to make some more changes in our personnel and in our athletic department staff. The effort and results of yesterday shouldn't be tolerated at Texas A&M; if we want to demand excellent in athletics, we need to start holding people accountable. That process also begins next weekend, too.

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Superbowl? Seriously?

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by KWashburn on Oct 18, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well if there is a positve you can take from the weekend

at least that loss to Arkansas doesn’t look so bad now since they almost beat Florida.

by 2Cor12:9 on Oct 18, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Superbowl?

haha what a joke

by jgome21 on Oct 19, 2009 1:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously? Super Bowl?

That is the funniest thing I’ve read since Beergut’s classic statement last year when Tech was 8-0. He said he’d rather have aTm’s record, since they were on the way up! Seriously! Super Bowl? This isn’t even Tech’s red/black scrimmage. There will be a huge crowd, but it will be more like the Roman spectacles than the Super Bowl. You just missed it by a mile.

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Some people just think that no matter how shitty life gets, they still matter.

Is this a big game? Hell yeah. Every game should be big when you have goals. Tech took a few lumps after a couple of tough losses, but we’re battling back and have a really good chance to still have a special season. Just don’t look past any inferior opponent and do something stupid.

Now, is it the super bowl? There was a time a few years ago when it was, but those days are past. Its just not the same when one team is so low. Don’t get me wrong, I love beating the aggies, but its just kinda like beating up a retarded kid. Its just not as fun as beating up someone who knows what they’re doing.

It is kind of sad, though, that they still have fans when even their players obviously don’t care about playing. Hopefully they’ll play all freshmen and sophomores for the rest of the year so they can maybe be competitive in a year or two.

by pcrawttu on Oct 19, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

we’re all adults here, and we can discourse as such

leave the teenage language and cursing at home; it has no place on this blog.

by Beergut on Oct 19, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is their Super Bowl in Lubbock

and then…..

we’re all adults here, and we can discourse as such

Are we all adults here?

by techtom4 on Oct 19, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Antiswarm!!

Long time no see!

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by KWashburn on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whassup KW!!!

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 19, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please
That is the funniest thing I’ve read since Beergut’s classic statement last year when Tech was 8-0. He said he’d rather have aTm’s record, since they were on the way up!

Find me the exact quote where I said this. I think what you’d like for me to have said and reality are two starkly different things, because I never made that statement.

by Beergut on Oct 19, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x

I haven’t looked for the quote, but I do recall Beergut talking about how he, despite A&M’s awful record last year and Tech’s great one, would rather have A&M’s program than Tech’s because last year was the absolute pinnacle of what Tech is capable of achieving, with nowhere to go but down, but A&M was on the way up. That’s what I remember.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

He said he would rather have aggys RECORD, not their program. If he had said program, it wouldn’t have provided a weeks worth of fun discussion and a remembrance here. He said he preferred aggys RECORD. I rode him for it incessantly for at least a week, and he knows damn well he said it.

Now he denies it. Ok. Whatever.

Very Bill Clintonesque

“Go find my EXACT WORDS… and what does IS mean anyway?”

Antiswarm

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 20, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And is this season part...

…of the “on the way up”? Really? Seriously?

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 20, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.

But Tech is obviously on the downswing.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol...mmmkay

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 20, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've already lost more games than last year.

So you have a zero percent chance of repeating 2008. Hence, downswing.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant

Except we have lost two games this year and we lost two games last year. But nice try at blinding me with science.

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 20, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? In what way are we possibly on the downswing???

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Find the quote or a source.

Until then, this debate is nothing more than what we think someone may have said. That’s meaningless.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Warning Signs

I think this, along with many many other things about Sherman’s 1.5 years here have been ominous warning signs. I think there were the same warning signs with Franchione in his first two seasons, but since he improved the record that they largely went ignored, then in a panic, Byrne extended Franchione.

The bottom line is that a good college coach can come into a school and make a huge difference immediately. What we have with Sherman and Franchione is a coach that has absolutely failed to make any sort of real progress early, then to compound things, the Athletic Department and Byrne simply sit back and preach “patience.” This team has been very bad for much of the last 7 years and I am not wanting to be stuck with Sherman for another 5.5 years.

The warning signs are there; someone needs to recognize it.

by FuturePants on Oct 19, 2009 9:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

If the team wasn’t ready to play or were overconfident for any reason, that speaks volumes about the shortcomings of the coaching staff.

If it is the case that K-State is just a better team, by that wide of a margin, that might even be more damning for Sherman.

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by Zeno of Citium on Oct 19, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like the rebuilding project just got a lot longer....

Though it seems like we have a Jekyll and Hyde team on our hands. There are two ways you can respond to such an embarassing loss at this point in the season: Continue on that slippery slope and tank in the rest of the season or dig deep down to find out what you are made of and compete. Considering how young this team is, this job falls entirely on the coaches to make sure that they put this behind them and turn up to play next Saturday. Basically, we get to see this weekend if Coach Sherman can get his team to turn up and perform this Saturday.

Also, last weekend was a reality check. After the euphoria of the start we are back to where we should be. We saw a young team that floundered completely on their first road trip of the season and I will put this one on the coaches. Hopefully, we learn and
respond. Thats what I am looking forward to in the next game. Alright, I am done with my glass half full view :-).

by maroonblood on Oct 19, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Super Bowl?

Beergut! Come on and stop the nonsense. I seriously doubt Tech considers A&M anything more than a possible trap game. Yes you guys do have the athletes but lack player development badly. While you guys talk about being a young team you fail to realize that Tech is also young along with many others. The recruiting is only going to get better at Tech and I’m sure these young kids coming out of HS want to be on TV. You need to rethink the “super bowl” thing a bit. The Baylor Bears are becoming your closet thing to a rival.

by Raider1992 on Oct 19, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I get that Beergut is just trying to mock us and look down his nose at Tech, but the “Super Bowl” analogy really doesn’t work here. For Boise State this season, their “Super Bowl” was against Oregon, because they were the best opponent that Boise would play all year and were ranked highly at the time and they needed to make a statement against them to increase their BCS chances. In no way is the A&M game a “Super Bowl” for Tech, because beating them badly won’t do anything for our team’s perception or BCS bowl chances. I guess Beergut believes it is our “Super Bowl” because for whatever reason he thinks we only care about this game. That exact attitude from A&M fans is what makes beating them so fun. Though this has no chance of happening, I am really curious to see how A&M fans would react if they were to beat us. According to Beergut, it wouldn’t be much of an accomplishment, so the fanbase probably wouldn’t be too excited. For some reason though, I get the feeling that A&M would probably go absolutely nuts if they were to beat us.

by techtom4 on Oct 19, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*No* chance of happening?

While I admit it’s unlikely, there’s one thing I know from watching many college football games over the years, and that’s that any team can beat any other team on any given day, and it doesn’t matter if the school’s team name has a number in front of it or not.

by co9903 on Oct 19, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point, well put. Colorado did beat Kansas the other day, after all, so it could happen.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why oh why are Tech fans so obsessed with this Texas A&M site?

For real. Can someone explain this to me? We get more Tech commentators than A&M ones!

by FuturePants on Oct 19, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BG did kind of go out of his way to insult TT fans. Maybe it was just hyperbole on his part, and TT fans are probably being a bit over-sensitive, but the fact is that the A&M/Tech game has not been their Superbowl for a very long time. Back in the day, Tech lived to be the spoiler against A&M and Texas. Now days, A&M would be the spoiler against either Tech or Texas.

by ambivalent on Oct 19, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get updates from all the boards I'm a member of. This being one of them.

It said “story” so I clicked on it and read it. Laughed and commented. Believe me I wouldn’t waste my time waiting to “troll” and leave a comment.

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by KWashburn on Oct 19, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey dawg

if you guys could find some more Aggies to post on this site we wouldn’t have to.

by mojavereject on Oct 19, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No....

You don’t have to post at all. You really don’t. I’m all for intelligent discourse. When Tech fans come on an A&M site just to stir up a fight and flame a team, it’s juvenille and a waste of all our time.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

My apologies for turning an argument on the internet into a waste of time.

by mojavereject on Oct 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aside from the hopefully sarcastic or otherwise ridiculous perception that there are more Tech commentators on this site than A&M ones, I believe, has much more to do with the lack of interest from A&M fans regarding their football team than it does with an “unusual” amount of Tech fans commentating on this blog. There is a general trend among membership and readership/commentary on most SB nation blogs that can be directly correlated to said blogs’ respective teams’ success.

by techtom4 on Oct 19, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You perceive your team as super successful then, I guess?

So why waste your time bashing another school constantly? I can understand talking about the upcoming game, but coming on this site to say how bad we sucked against Arkansas or K State is stupid. It has nothing to do with Tech, does nothing positive, and is simply nothing more than immature fans being jerkoffs.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hardly bash your team constantly…I believe I am approaching my 10th or 11th comment on this site… Why are you allowed to bash Tech but I can’t say anything critical of A&M? Also, I don’t see where I am being a jerkoff, could you point taht out to me? I am yet to mention Arkansas or K-state too…

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Critical arguments are one thing.

Coming to an A&M website to say how much we suck is not a critical statement. It’s nothing but an attempt to piss people off. I didn’t say you were a jerkoff; what I did say was this:

coming on this site to say how bad we sucked against Arkansas or K State is stupid. It has nothing to do with Tech, does nothing positive, and is simply nothing more than immature fans being jerkoffs.

Which is absolutely true. It’s juvenile, pointless and reflects exceptionally poorly on the Tech fanbase as a whole.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

???

coming on this site to say how bad we sucked against Arkansas or K State is stupid. It has nothing to do with Tech, does nothing positive, and is simply nothing more than immature fans being jerkoffs.

When did I ever do this? I never said that anything like that. I am just defending my team against the ridiculous notion that the only game we/they care about is the one between the Aggies.

It has nothing to do with Tech, does nothing positive, and is simply nothing more than immature fans being jerkoffs.

Is that not evidence of you calling me and other Tech fans jerkoffs? (Not that I care, but you definitely did say that).

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

!!!

If you want to put yourself in that category, then go right ahead. I don’t know you; if you aren’t that type of fan, then don’t be so offended. Bottom line: you are spending a lot of time on an A&M website when your username is “techstorm4.”

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not offended

I’m just defending myself against claims made against me that aren’t true. I am not trying to claim there aren’t jerkoff Tech fans, I just don’t consider myself one. The only reason I am currently spending so much time on this site is because we have engaged in a civil debate, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s nothing personal. Also, my username is techtom4 in case you care.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yes, I would argue that my team is successful on a regular basis. Not elite, but getting closer to being there. Could anyone really disagree with that statement?

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Win a title.

Then you’ll be sucessful. Until then, it’s just a series of nice, yet unimportant seasons.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah right

If we win a title, the next thing we will hear is that “Well you only have one, so you still aren’t sucessful.” Do you really believe that Texas Tech football is currently not successful? At the very least, we are a solid, competitive team year to year, which would indicate at least some success. If not, I don’t know what does.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, a solid, competitive team.

But really successful? No, I really don’t. Success in NCAAF is determined by results. Lots of teams win lots of games, but until they win conference championships, get BCS bowl bids, win national titles, etc., I do not think that said team is successful. It’s a nice, yet irrelevant program until that team wins something.

And I’m glad you know what I’ll say if Tech wins a title.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, that's strange

I have never heard of a team that is solid and competitive consistenly but also not successful simultaneously. Surely we are the first team in the history of sports to achieve this unique distinction. Are you really saying that if Tech had just ONE conference championship, the last decade could be considered a success, but because they don’t, it isn’t?

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Dallas Cowboys had a solid, competive season last year.

But missed the playoffs. Nobody would classify that as successful.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did they have a solid, competitive season last year if they missed the playoffs? They were one loss away from being a .500 team. They got blown out their two last games of the year, the last of which would have got them to the playoffs if they won. They also suffered several other blowouts during the year, including a 34-14 beatdown against the RAMS!!! How is that competitive?

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

They got blown out by the Rams when their quarterback was hurt. I’m not sure you are making a point with all this, though.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya, I can see that. You are making it damn near impossible.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

When I wonder what your point is, your response is essentially, “It’s YOU who doesn’t have a point!!!!”

Nice.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok...

Have a good day!

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think most people would agree that making the playoffs would constitute a team being solind and competitive. Not almost being .500 with several blowouts.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cowboys were competitive.

They just had a bad December. They weren’t successful because they did not make the playoffs.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solid/competitve/successful all occur and can be applied to a team under the same circumstances.

They weren’t successful because they did not make the playoffs

Thank you for proving my point!!! They weren’t solid and competitive, did not make the playoffs, and thus were not successful either!

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Your argument depends on having a competitive season necessitates success. That is not the case; ergo your argument is fatally flawed.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok...

Have a good day!

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't you forgetting something though?

After all, the Cowboys do have a Conference title, so doesn’t that make anything they ever do successful, much like the Aggies?

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irrelevant and retarded.

When did I – or anyone – ever argue this?

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have said several times that Tech is an irrelevant program because it does not have a conference championship, so nothing we do can be considered succesful, while A&M can have poor seasons year after year, but because of a conference title, they can be considered successful regardless of how bad they currently are. I’m retarded?

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

When did I say A&M is relevant? Find a link because you’re reaching, dude.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok...

Have a good day!

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tech won a share of the South Divisional Title last year. Only due to like a dozen tiebreakers was only one team allowed to go on and play for the bigger overall Big 12 title. UT even has the little star * to prove it.

Is it the best thing in the world? No. But it is still a title, therefore a successful season according to your logic.

by pcrawttu on Oct 20, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

They didn’t win a share of anything. Just like UT didn’t win a share. OU won the South, period.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So apparently there is no such thing as a 3-way tie huh? How did Tech and UT not win a share of the South? It is recorded in the annals of Big 12 history. (I’m not bragging about this, because I want an actual title just as much as the next guy, but logical people know this “shared” concept to be true.)

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tie, yes.

A share of the title?

Keep dreaming, Tech.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So YOU are the utmost authority in the Big 12 conference that decides what dictates a shared title? We should just stop arguing…this is beyond pointless. Good luck the rest of your season!

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I'm not the authority at all.

I can, however, interpret the rules when you obviously cannot. Tech didn’t tie for Big XII South Champion. They didn’t get a share of the title. OU was the champ of the South, period. Tech had the same record but did not get a piece of anything. I’m sorry that you and Mack Brown disagree with that, but that’s the breaks and how the rules operate.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok...

Have a good day!

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Beergut went out of his way to do anything. He was just offering his opinion. Of you look at the prices for tickets to Tech games, are the A&M game tickets the costliest? Why is there such demand fir those tickets?

by miketag on Oct 19, 2009 5:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Well, A&M is a Big-12 opponent, so naturally the tickets cost more than the would for, say, a game against Rice. In no way are they the most expensive though…where do you come up with these claims?

by techtom4 on Oct 19, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The truth is...

…I tried to go to this game, but Tech was not selling individual tickets for this one (I was going to go with my friend who works for the University, so wasn’t buying through A&M).

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh? That’s unfortunate?

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just didn’t see the relevance of the previous post. You didn’t try to prove tickets for that game are the most expensive so I was confused. My apologies.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what the price is.

Like I said, it’s that Tech isn’t even willing to sell individual tickets to that game. That alone elevates the importance of that game above all others.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bought individual tickets for $95 each through Tech’s website.

by pcrawttu on Oct 20, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Aggies

I hear they are going to cut the Aggie football program to add men’s volleyball.

by Dawnpatrol on Oct 19, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Super Bowl?

Tech played their Super Bowl and lost already! To Texas! Tech is improving with the new QB…I will admit that! As a Horns fan here’s the order of how I think most Texas football fans see our rivalries these days: OU, TT, Ohio State, OK St., Mizzu, PAC 10 Teams, rest of Big 12 North, rest of Big 12 South, Aggies.

By the way don’t you get a penalty for having 12 men on the field? Cheaters.

Tech wins 66 – 7 this weekend.
Horns roll 31 – 10.

Go ahead and kick me off the blog.

by Dawnpatrol on Oct 19, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can’t wait to watch the next installment of the storied Iowa State – Texas rivalry.

by co9903 on Oct 19, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Horns have grown up...aggies got left behind.

Maybe Big 12 should trade up and take TCU…and scratch the Aggies

by Dawnpatrol on Oct 19, 2009 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

According to your list of rivalries, looks like you have some more boards to join.

by co9903 on Oct 19, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

I thought Baylor might step up and fill the void, but injuries set them back. ATm is just getting worse and if they fire their coach after the season, it will be another 5 year Stalinist reconstruction plan. I say draft TCU or even UTEP and drop aggy into the Conference USA or MWC or Border Conference or something. North Texas vs. Aggy – the new Super Bowl!

Antiswarm

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 19, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who has claimed Tech as a rival? tu is our rival and always will be. Tech is just another team on our schedule.

by miketag on Oct 20, 2009 1:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You're right, that rivalry has been going on for a long time.

I lived in Beaumont when I was younger and always went to the Bonfire and games at Kyle Field. But claiming Tech as another team on your schedule is kinda weird.

We could get in a heated discussion but I don’t think it would amount to anything. Tradition is tradition. At least OU claims us as a rival.

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by KWashburn on Oct 20, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently we aren't "just another team" on your schedule

Because (I could be wrong) but I think opponent for the all-time attendence record at Kyle field was Texas Tech. If it’s not the all-time records, it’s 2nd or something. “Just another team” is more like a UAB or a Utah State.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I tried

but the site is not updated to include the 2008 Tech game at Kyle field which is the record breaker I believe.

by techtom4 on Oct 20, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

attendance at the 2008 A&M-Tech game was 86012

highest attendance ever is texas in 2007, their last visit here, where we had 88,253

Of our top 5 highest attended games, texas is listed three times, including #1, #2, and #5

Notre Dame 2001 is #3, Oklahoma 2000 is #4

Last year’s Tech game would put you at #10 all-time, which would knock down the 2006 Tech game

Your statement that we set the all-time attendance record at Kyle Field against y’all, or even second, isn’t even close.

by Beergut on Oct 20, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well my bad then

For some reason I thought it was.

by techtom4 on Oct 21, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dawnpatrol for one

and Beergut, though he’s probably not buying his Hub City Super Bowl tickets just yet, obviously managed to pick up on the fact that there is a certain level of competition and animosity between these teams and fanbases, which is what a rivalry is all about. Also there’s that whole thing where you can have more than one rival, and you don’t always get to choose who that is- it’s more a function of geography (check), conference (check), and competitiveness of the series (check…if you don’t count the last decade)

by mojavereject on Oct 20, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the last decade

…doesn’t count for anything here. You should know that. The hall of history begins and ends BEFORE Zach Thomas stepped in front of that last second pass and ran it in for a touchdown at the Jones. The Leach era never happened. Four legs good, two legs… better!

Antiswarm

... I'm just sayin'

by antiswarm on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Back in ’82, I could throw a football over them mountains.”

by pcrawttu on Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your rivalry criteria – I would also add that the the general assessment of a rivalry is also a function of how competitive it is at the current time. Teams that have long-running series tend to call those rivalries. But if any team goes into the doldrums for a stretch (like A&M now, or OU in the late nineties), the rivalry will be less heated, and seem less significant. But I don’t think it goes away.

by co9903 on Oct 20, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TU is not your rival...

Baylor is. You guys can’t believe that UT even gives you a second thought lately. The Big 12 is completely different than the old SWC rivalries. I think most would agree UT’s rivalry is OU.

by Raider1992 on Oct 20, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its a little pathetic

and really reflects badly on the Tech fanbase that so many trollers from Tech are coming out here to spout nonsense. Admittedly, Tech has done exceedingly well since Mike Leach took over the reigns, but instead of enjoying being relevant again, you are really doing your fanbase discredit by going go to other teams fanbases and spouting bullshit.

Whats happened above is a massive classless display of insecurity which unfortunately is what we have come to expect of most Tech fans these days. All I can say is grow up and represent your University better and try and match the good things your team is doing on the field so that you can have respect off the field as well.

by maroonblood on Oct 20, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Most telling of all:

This is a thread about KSU-A&M reaction. Tech fans just had to come over and gloat, which is irritating in about 3880 different ways.

by FuturePants on Oct 20, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on...

it’s all in good fun. These blogs are made for these kind of discussions. I have many Aggie friends and family that perfectly understand that Tech and A&M like to poke fun at one another. Beergut spends a lot of time over at the DTN site and we enjoy having him every now and then.

by Raider1992 on Oct 21, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is all pretty funny.

First off, I am a tea-sip; I am used to being thought of as an arrogant snob by my Big XII South brethren. Alas, I am married to an Aggie (the only capital-A Aggie I acknowledge). To sit back and read through the comments here is quite entertaining. The heathens in Lubbock still want desperately to sit at the grown-up’s table; but they’re not quite there yet, and the only ones they can still pick on are the unfortunate souls stuck in College Station – who are firmly entrenched at the children’s table.

Yes, I know, both schools have beaten the mighty Longhorns a time or two over the last few years – but, as mentioned above, anything can happen on any given Saturday. Consistency is what matters, and, on a consistent basis, the Longhorns whip both the wanna-be Red Raiders and the used-to-be aggies. Sorry. Live with it.

All of that having been said, here is how I feel (and, I suspect, most other tea-sips, too): The Red Raiders are today’s version of what TCU was back in Darrel Royal’s day: Cockroaches. It’s not so much what they carry off, it’s what they fall into and mess up. We would just as soon see the Red Raiders stay out in West Texas, maybe join the Pac-10 or Mountain West or one of those other goofy leagues where they can occasionally compete for a conference championship. We don’t like playing those guys; rarely are they better than us, but they manage to win one every so often – even when they are clearly not the better team (see last year).

The aggies, on the other hand, we would actually like to see get better. My dad is a huge UT fan; we have season tickets, and have for years. However, he’d never actually been to a UT vs. aTm game until a few years ago. In the middle of it all, he turned to me and said, “You know, I thought we hated ou, but this is just…unbelievable.” We want the rivalry to be competitive, so it’s fun again. It’s really not all that fun to beat you guys by 40 points on a regular basis (although I’ll take it). We want you to make a game of it, at least.

Sorry for being so long-winded. End of rant.

Really? Does my signature suck?

by adt2 on Oct 20, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Greatest. Thread. Ever

for entertainment purposes only of course.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Oct 20, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow....

This has got to be the best thing I’ve ever read. Not only have 3 different schools that don’t claim eachother jumped on and posted. But we’ve covered almost nothing. A&M – “reflects badly on the Tech fanbase that so many trollers from Tech are coming out here to spout nonsense”

No nonsense being spouted just facts for the most part. I love the fact that A&M stands tall no matter what. I think it’s hilarious for the most part. Shooting down our season last year for whatever reason " reflects badly on the A&M fanbase" Also, stating that this game is our “superbowl” reflects badly on your fanbase.

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Oct 20, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"Facts?!"

Hilarious. Let’s go through the “facts” spouted by the Tech posters in this thread alone:

1) techtom4: “the all-time attendence record at Kyle field was Texas Tech” (Beergut proved this was an outright fabrication)

2) antiswarm: “[Beergut] said he would rather have aggys RECORD” (antiswarm cannot find any supporting evidence and Beergut corrected him on this misrepresentation.)

3) antiswarm: “Except we have lost two games this year and we lost two games last year. But nice try at blinding me with science.” (Tech went 11-1 last year in the regular season and currently has two losses.)

4) techtom4: Texas Tech is “successful.” (Win a title, but I’ll admit this is subjective.)

5) techtom4: “Tech won a share of the South Divisional title last year.” (No, no they did not. The same record as the champion does not a champion make. Tech got hosed, so did UT. Deal with it.)

6) KWashburn: “stating that this game is our "superbowl" reflects badly on your fanbase.” (Well that doesn’t even make sense. Suggesting that the actions of the Tech fanbase reflect anything at all on the A&M fanbase is just plain stupid.)

“Facts?” That’s too funny!

by FuturePants on Oct 21, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You obviously don't have the capability of understanding normal thought.

My comment makes no sense to you because you are not the brightest individual.

I was stating that if Beergut thinks that A&M coming to Lubbock to play Tech is Tech’s “suberbowl” then he / A&M are reflecting bad upon the A&M fanbase. 1 dominant team and one not dominant team do not make a “superbowl”.

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Oct 21, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm the idiot. Ok.
I was stating that if Beergut thinks that A&M coming to Lubbock to play Tech is Tech’s "suberbowl" then he / A&M are reflecting bad upon the A&M fanbase. 1 dominant team and one not dominant team do not make a "superbowl".

You still fail to explain how this reflects poorly on A&M’s fanbase. Then you make the even more confusing leap in logic that your inability to explain a very crazy statement means that I am “not the brightest individual.” Ok dude.

by FuturePants on Oct 22, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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