texas Game Review
by Beergut on Nov 27, 2009 6:37 PM CST
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Print- In order to win the game, we needed to win the turnover battle, run the ball on their top-ranked run defense, and not have any special teams miscues. We gave up one KO return for a TD, and that turned out to be a backbreaker for us.
- Even though he had an incredible performance last night, I still don't think Colt McCoy deserves the Heisman, because he wasn't even the best QB on the field last night. Jerrod Johnson took the best defense in this conference and one of the best defenses in the nation and made them look stupid.
- I may be in the minority on this issue, but I didn't like the decision to go for the FG on the 4th and 3. The way our offense was playing, we could have made the three yards, and the TD would have kept the pressure on texas. Score the TD, get the onside kick, and you have the option of driving for the winning TD or going for the tie with a FG. A FG at that point still puts you down by a TD, and limits your options.
- McCoy's 65 yard TD run up the middle was a pretty bad defensive breakdown; no excuse to not have anyone manning the middle of the field on 3rd and 2.
- texas picked on Justin McQueen pretty good. With Coryell Judie coming off his redshirt next season, we should have someone there to play across from Terrence Frederick.
- We rushed for 190 yards against the #1 rush defense in the nation; good job of creating some holes by the offensive line.
- Christine Michael had a solid game, but he needs to learn to lock up the ball before the runs forward. His one fumble was a poor job by him of locking up the handoff. Jerrod had a few miscommunications in the runnning game, but it wasn't enough to hurt us seriously.
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I was impressed by you Ags. You have some seriously good players and they played ridiculously well- the lines played solid, CM ran hard, JJ put balls more on the money than anything I’ve seen lately, and the WRs made some very strong plays on the ball in rough coverage.
I only wish that you would play up to that potential the rest of the year, instead of being down 52-0 to freakin Kansas State. KSU. 52-0. Also Beergut, the picture caption is uncalled-for. That is not ending a sentence with a preposition, as I am counting the hypenated phrase as one word. Seriously though, JJ had a career day in stats and technicals, and while he definitely outshone anything he has done to date, he did not outshine Colt. Colt will get the heisman possibility love from ESPN, but JJ was at best equal to his counterpart.
I look forward to next year with much trepidation, and hope that you will break tradition (haha, not possible, I know) and use up some of this “good football play” before you get to Thanksgiving (exception TTech game this year, good job).
Johnson's performance outshone McCoy's?
Right…
I’ll take 304yds. passing for 4TD and no picks, plus 175yds. rushing and a TD, over JJ’s numbers. I’ll also take the win.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 27, 2009 8:53 PM CST reply actions
Stats are for losers. I will take the W any day.
good game, but was it ever in question that Aggies were going to beat TEXAS?
COACH BOOM BABY!!
I agree with most of your post-game analysis
Johnson was spectacular against a top 3 defense. He hit small windows and used his feet when he had to for success.
A&M played well but there were still too many mistakes. 2 second half turnovers (both needless), the kickoff return, the missed FG. That’s probably the difference right there and all of it save the KOR was self-inflicted.
Johnson and McCoy were both stellar last nite
But I recall Colt running for one more touchdown than Jarrod and certainly out-punting him. I’m not sure, but I think I saw Colt selling popcorn during halftime as well.
I'd give my right arm to be ambidexterous.
QB Comparison
Statistically, Jerod Johnson and Daniel McCoy were near equals in terms of total yards and they did equal each other in TD passes. McCoy had a TD run and did not turn the ball over.
What the statistics don’t tell is that Jerod Johnson performed as he did against one of the nation’s top defenses, where as Daniel McCoy performed well against one of the nation’s worst. In other words, JJ exceeded the expectations most of the nation had for him in the game, where as DM lived up to the expectations heaped upon his shoulders.
I don’t want to discredit McCoy’s performance, because he did in fact have a great game personally, and more importantly he did lead his team to victory. None the less, in the head to head QB comparison, I don’t see how anyone could realistically claim that McCoy played a better game than Johnson.
i’ll give the better qb of the game to johnson…. but the difference between colt and johnson is that colt has consistently played this way for 2 years. colt didn’t throw for <60% in 5 games this year, he’s got the higher rating. he’s kept from running as much as he did last year, but can clearly still do it. if johnson continues this play till next year, he’ll have some heisman hype. but when you lose 5 games a year, you’re not going to be acknowledged for much of anything.
by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 28, 2009 1:55 PM CST reply actions
We’re not talking about Heisman hypes. We were talking about who played beter in that particular game. No one was on here complaining that JJ doesn’t get the hype he deserves so I don’t know where that came from
by miketag on Nov 29, 2009 12:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
# Even though he had an incredible performance last night, I still don’t think Colt McCoy deserves the Heisman, because he wasn’t even the best QB on the field last night. Jerrod Johnson took the best defense in this conference and one of the best defenses in the nation and made them look stupid.
and it’s been expounded upon in multiple places how jerrod johnson is the better qb, and how he does more with less, and blah blah blah. and no, this quote doesn’t directly say “jerrod johnson should be in the heisman talk”, i added that in, it’s called adding content and moving the conversation forward. this blog might as well be you and beergut emailing each other back and forth.
by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 29, 2009 4:12 AM CST up reply actions
the one time Colt faced a similar defense to what Jerrod face Thursday was when y'all played OU
Colt didn’t perform too well.
It isn’t about “doing more with less”, because I think we’re better than texas at all the offensive skill positions, it has to do with performing well against the best defense you will face.
"It isn’t about 'doing more with less', because I think we’re better than texas at all the offensive skill positions,"
Haha.
Either you’re in denial or you’re an idiot.
I’ll just use the most obvious example, but which a&m reciever is better than Jordan Shipley?
Hahahahahahahaha.
Shipley is a phenomenal receiver
so I’m not taking anything away from him.
But EZ Nwachukwu is just as good, if not better. He averages more yards per reception (18 > 13), and has more than half as many TD receptions bespite having almost a third as many receptions. Nwachukwu is doing this as a true freshman, while Shipley is a sixth year senior.
Looking at your wide receiver corps,. Shipley is all you have. You have no one the equal of Fuller or Tannehill, not to mention Ryan Swope. You have no TE, we have Jamie McCoy. You have Shipley and…….Shipley. That’s it.
and....Malcom Williams.
The dude who torched you for 170+
And James Kirkendoll. I would take either of those dudes over Swope, or Tannehill for sure. EZ seems like the real deal, as well as Jeff Fuller.
From what you are saying, your offense should be unstoppable next year. JJ comes back, running back tandem (although it should just be Michael, Gray isn’t half of what Michael is) comes back, Fuller, EZ, Tannehill, and Swope come back. Your O-Line comes back. Man, this is going to be one hard aggy offense to stop. Should be much better than the Texas offense of this year.
I actually think Gray was the better RB ever since the KSU game. He has made great strides this year as a RB.
As for the offense, we do lose 3 OL to graduation. Our offense should be pretty damn good next year. Just have to stay healthy and keep developing our talent. I’ve been watching Malcolm
Williams since he was a sophomore in HS. He just needs to be more consistent.
by miketag on Nov 30, 2009 4:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
ridiculous, homer statement #2
But EZ Nwachukwu is just as good [as shipley], if not better.
bleeding orange up in nyc. get a rope.
Jeff Fuller and EZ will likely be equals to shipley if not better by the time they are done
no doubt in my mind, as it is right now, we have 3 very dependable underclassmen WR adding Tannehill, Id taker our WR corp as a whole over texas’… And at the RB position there is little doubt we are better off, I dont see how its so hard to see this. Defense wins championships still and thats why texas is so much better than A&M right now, but to deny that A&M isnt loaded at all the offensive skill position is to not watch any of our games.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
WR comparrison
No one for A&M has accomplished what Shipley has done in his 46 years at Texas (just kidding, I know he was legitimately hurt). More so than McCoy, he has been the Texas offensive MVP, even if McCoy is the leader. A&M has a few receivers with the potential to have outstanding careers. The difference is that Shipley has already had an outstanding career, where as the Aggie receiving corps are just starting out.
A&M football should be a lot of fun to watch next year, I know that much.
I don't see the point of comparing what Colt did last year to what Jerrod did last year
because one QB was a redshirt junior in his third season as a starter, and one QB was a redshirt sophomore playing for a team with some serious talent deficiencies, especially on offensive line.
Now, if you want to compare Colt as a redshirt sophomore to Jerrod as a redshirt sophomore, I’ll do that. If you want to compare Jerrod as a redshirt junior to Colt as a redshirt senior, I’ll do that. You do realize that Jerrod has more TD passes and fewer INTs (and turnovers overall) than Colt does this season, right?
We’ll have to wait and see what Jerrod does next year, and then we can compare this year and next year to Colt’s junior and senior years, if you want to.
we’re talking who the better qb is right now… are we going to forever delay 1 year to make comparisons between colt and jerrod? we’re looking at the body of work of both QBs.. colt has it, jerrod doesn’t.
by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 29, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
ok, if you want to compare head-to-head, let's look at this year, period.
Jerrod has more TDs and fewer INTs, and fewer turnovers overall, so he’s had the better year.
Comparing the ‘body of work’ is futile when one QB has started for four years, and one has been a starter for only 20 games. If we’re going to go with the closest “apples to apples” comparison we can, which is this year, Jerrod surpasses Colt.
colt : 152 rating
jerrod : 135 rating
i’ll look at the comprehensive rating of a QB… you don’t need to throw a TD pass to march your team down the field and get the rushing TD.
if jerrod johnson came out this year, think he’d go above colt in the draft? just another way to look at who you think the better QB is. despite the stupidity of plenty of GMs.j
by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 29, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
College QB ratings are pointless. I remember when James Brown had the highest QB rating in the SWC even though he threw the most interceptions and had the lowest completion percentage in the conference.
Draft position is an interesting question. It would depend on how JJ did in the All Star games. I think Colt is going to end up a 2nd round draft pick. I think JJ will be a first round pick next year. I could see him drafted high this year bc of his prototype size and arm. Freeman was a first round pick last year and he was not as polished as JJ. Had a stronger arm though. We will see how it all works out. I think JJ will have a better pro career that Colt.
by miketag on Nov 30, 2009 4:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
possible, but doubtful (about the draft positions). if mccoy has a strong showing in the nebraska game, and at the MNC assuming we win that, he’ll go top 10. he’s not going to get troy smithed even if he has a subpar outting. JJ if he continues on his current path will also be a 1st round pick.
by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 30, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
I completely agree with you
on going for the FG. I was going nuts in the stands when I saw our fat kicker come onto the field. I just have zero confidence in him to start with. But anyway, I second what you said about the situation it puts you in.
The commentators are saying that McCoy finally had a Heisman "moment"
And darned if it wasn’t against the Aggies. You can split hairs all you want to justify your predisposition against Daniel Colt McCoy. But thanks to Aggy, he got a boost in the Heisman hype on an evening I thought would be a no-win proposition in that department.
"Hell, No. I'm not going to candy this thing up. These are work clothes." -Darrell Royal
I'm late to the party....
But here goes. I agree about the late FG. Would’ve liked to see Sherman go for the TD on that possession.
Re: Von Miller and holding. The post-game radio show I listen to talked about this. They said that although Miller was being held quite a bit, they were okay with the no-calls because the refs were letting it go on both sides. My view from the stands wasn’t good enough to tell, but if the zebras were in fact “letting them play,” so to speak, then I think it’s fine. I would be more upset if the holding wasn’t being called equally on both sides.
And finally, McCoy. Texas’ offense is predicated on YAC. McCoy throws the vast majority of his passes close to the line of scrimmage. The real work is done by the receivers after they catch the ball. This is a smart scheme to run when you have a quick & shifty receiver like Shipley. McCoy is also a smart QB and this system fits his strengths well, too, but let’s be honest: the guy getting awards this season for Texas should be Shipley.
Other offenses that are predicated on short passes and YAC, most notably Texas Tech, are written off as “gimmicks” and their QBs labeled as “system” guys. I’m a little confused why Texas, running a very similar scheme, has suddenly garnered such praise for McCoy.
probably because Texas Tech’s offense has looked the same over the past what, 8 years with 6 different QBs? and every year they’ve basically had the #1 passer in terms of passing yards. when your first string QB goes down, and your backup is putting up identical numbers, it helps the argument of “well it’s not the QB who is successful, it’s the system”.
also, the system that colt has been in has been changing over the years, adapting to what Colt’s strengths are (as an offense should), but I dont think that just because Colt does well in our system, you can get just any other QB and put him in in Colt’s place. Colt runs well, moves around the pocket well, makes great decisions, and can put the ball on the money on the deep/intermediate routes if need be. I think alot of the quick passing Colt does happens because our OLine isn’t as good as Texas fans thought. It never really has been. Tons of experience and seniority, not always a ton of time. Or maybe you hit the nail on the head and we just have shorter receivers who GD doesn’t trust to get open and stay open down field…
To sum it all up, do I think Colt could be successful in other offensive systems? absolutely. Do I think just any QB can be successful in ours? probably not.
by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 30, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
actually
texas’ passing game has stayed remarkably consistent over the years; the idea that texas’ offense is constantly changing is a myth, because the core scheme stays the same. What Davis does do is sometimes add a series to his offense, like he has this year with the Jet series.
I think a lot fo QBs could be successful in texas’ offense, partly b/c it isn’t all that complicated to run, and partly b/c Greg Davis is one of the best QB coaches in the nation.
Agreed
that a lot of QBs could be successful in Texas’ offense. But couldn’t a lot of QBs be successful in aggy offense too?
I think the reason the Texas offense operates at such a high level is McCoy’s completion percentage. Sure JJ had a better percentage in that game, but overall (including all 4 years) Colt is the most accurate passer in history.
And Im sure you are just going to say “well when you throw most of your passes in the 5-10 yd range it isnt hard to be completing 70%”
Then why doesn’t the Tech QB year after year have a high completion %?
Tech QBs did have high completion percentages
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11070145
Lowest career 62.6%, highest 67.9%. None of them are as high as McCoy for a career, but they are still pretty damn good.
yeah, cause colt is running the same offense that vince ran.. cause vince ran the same offense simms and applewhite ran. cause the offense has never changed since Mack has come on board and Greg Davis has been OC….
the system is tweaked to highlight the strengths of the key components within it, Texas Tech’s air raid has been the same highly productive offense for the past how many years?
by Displaced Longhorn on Dec 1, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
actually, this is correct
yeah, cause colt is running the same offense that vince ran.. cause vince ran the same offense simms and applewhite ran. cause the offense has never changed since Mack has come on board and Greg Davis has been OC….
The scheme, especially the passing scheme, has not changed. Only differences are changes in personnel groupings (y’all were more 21 personnel with ricky williams while you’re more 11 personnel now), and in emphasis in the running game (sweep was emphasis with Williams, inside zone with Hodges Mitchell, zone read has been bread-and-butter since 2003)
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