Independence Bowl Review
by Beergut on Dec 31, 2009 5:44 PM CST
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I've finally sat down for long enough to put fingers to keyboard and collect my thoughts on the Independence Bowl game against Georgia. We're going to do this in bullets, because it's easier that way:
- I don't ever want to hear about "ESS EEE SEE speed" again. Christine Michael beat the whole Georgia defense to the outside on a simple sweep for a 14 yard TD run for our second score on our first possession of the second half. Where was all that SEC speed then?
- Georgia's offense showed everything that is wrong with offenses in the Southeastern Conference. Remember last season when SEC partisans said Big 12 teams didn't play defense, and I responded by saying they don't play offense in the SEC? Our defense held Georgia's offense to 366 total yards; Georgia joins New Mexico, UAB, Iowa State, and Baylor as the only teams held to below 400 yards of total offense by A&M this year. Georgia's dependence on a pro-set and 21 personnel simplified things for our defense; Georgia had less than 100 yards in total offense at halftime, and if not for a complete implosion by our special teams, would have been held out of the end zone in the first half.
- Speaking of special teams, I guess we now see why we utilized the rugby punt so much this season. We seem incapable of protecting long enough to get a punt off otherwise. The kickoff return for a TD, blocked FG, and failed onside kick attempt were just icing on the cake.
- Georgia played off our wide receivers all game; for all the talk about SEC speed, they didn't have the player in their defensive back seven to handle our skill position players.
- A.J. Green is a good WR, but he isn't any better than Jeff Fuller or Uzoma Nwachukwu. True freshman Dustin Harris did a terrific job keeping Green in check. I think Harris was covering Green when he snagged his interception.
- Christine Michael just continues to get better and better every game. It is scary to thnk how good he will be next season, after a year in the strength and conditioning program.
- We may actually be too talented at the WR position. Brandal Jackson has an early 41 yard reception, and then barely sees the field after that. Who are you going to take off the field, though? Fuller? EZ? Jamie McCoy?
- Ryan Swope continues to grow into his role in this offense. He is going to be a good one for us.
- Joe Cox is an average to below-average quarterback, but his presence as a starter at Georgia is an indication of wider problem in the SEC. As a conference, the SEC truly lacks elite QBs, which is one of the reasons their offenses are so pedestrian. Outside of Tim Tebow at Florida and Ryan Mallett at Arkansas, the SEC is really a big bag of nothing at QB. Cox wouldn't even be second-string at several Big 12 schools.
- Jerrod Johnson's two TD passes give him 30 for the season, setting a new record for passing TDs by an Aggie QB, breaking his record of 21 he set last season.
- My pre-season goal for Jerrod was 25 TD passes and 3000 yards passing; with 30 TD passes and 3,579 yards passing, he easily surpassed the goals I had for him.
- The Georgia fans were good people, for the most part. They were badly outnumbered by the Aggies in attendance, both at the stadium and in the casinos, but they were pleasant. I had some drunk redneck Georgians near my seats who were obnoxious, but they were the exception. Most of the Bulldog fans I ran into were pleasant, and eager to talk football.
- Georgia's fight song appears to be "Glory, Georgia", which is really the Battle Hymn of the Republic, the song of the Union during the Civil War. This fact amused me to no end.
- The difference between Georgia rednecks and Texas rednecks? Texas rednecks will give you a hook'em sign, Georgia rednecks will bark at you, then drunkenly attempt to coach their football team from the stands.
- Georgia fans chanted "ESS EEE SEE!!! ESS EEE SEE!!!" after anything. Georgia gains a yard, they chant. Georgia kicks a FG, they chant. Mark Richt turns his head and blinks, they chant. It gets to the point where it is ridiculous.
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VT just got 2 seconds added back onto the clock after a last second pass in the first half…
everyone’s just out to screw A&M I guess :-(
by Displaced Longhorn on Dec 31, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great job
This must have been a big win for A&M, congratulations on winning the Independence Bowl.
by fotodog on Dec 31, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
From Dawg Sports blog
Methinks someone is suffering from just a wee bit of SEC envy. If it bothers Big 12 fans so much that we’re so proud of our league, they may want to stop all the premature bragging about how they’ve surpassed us.
By the way, “Glory, Glory” is set to the tune of a campfire spiritual written circa 1855. It was not until five and six years later, respectively, that the tune was used along with the lyrics to the songs that became “John Brown’s Body” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.”
In other words, we didn’t borrow our fight song from the U.S. Army; both we and the U.S. Army borrowed the music from a religious song and appropriated it to our own purposes.
Go ’Dawgs!
ecdude
by ecdude on Jan 1, 2010 7:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Where was all that SEC speed then?
Perhaps torching the rest of your team on the other 90+ plays of the game on the way to a 24 point win that would have been a 30 pointer if not for a junk time touchdown against the senior walk-ons? The point of the game is still to score more points than the other team, right?
The “SEC speed” thing gets misconstrued and overused a lot. Big XII tailbacks, receivers and corners are just as fast on average as their SEC counterparts. We like to think it’s along the lines (especially the defensive lines) where our guys play faster. But there’s really no way to verify that.
And in fairness, a lot of folks make that mistake regarding “Glory, Glory”. It would have taken some research not to given its ubiquitous Civil War association.
All that being said, the A&M folks acquitted themselves well. Every Georgia fan I talked to had great things to say about the Aggies they met, and you showed up in force. That deserves some praise. Hopefully y’all can make the necessary replacements on the offensive line, replace Coach Kines, and make some noise in the Big XII in 2010.
by MaconDawg on Jan 1, 2010 8:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's no way to verify any difference in talent or speed
except for NFL rosters, where the SEC has nearly twice as m any players as the next conference (which is the Pac-10, I believe). BTW, I’ll put UGA DBs Brandon Boykin and Branden Smith in a footrace against anybody. Those guys are not slow.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the NFL is not about figuring out who is the best or fastest college football player
they draft and sign people based on who will potentially make the best NFL player
Using the overall number of SEC players who are now in the NFL to support an argument that the SEC has faster players than the Big 12 is ludicrous.
by Beergut on Jan 1, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good point.
That’s why I really wasn’t suggesting they are necessarily faster (hence the word “talent,” which is a little more general in meaning). I was, however, suggesting that the SEC has the BEST players based on the NFL numbers. Knock yourself out on that one.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will take "Mad a better team kicked our ass" for
$500, Alex
good grief, the writer sounds like a teenager venting after being beaten in a sport.
by AppleCub on Jan 1, 2010 10:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
As for AJ Green,
he was rusty and quite frustrated that e=he did not have the game he usually does. Credit goes to A & M for that.
But his talent is undeniable. Mel Kiper earlier called him “possibly the best WR in college football.” If you want to see that on the field, go to ESPN.com and watch the Arkansas or Arizona State games. He is a man playing against boys…when healthy.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mel Kiper also said Andre Ware would be a star in the NFL
Using Kiper to support your argument doesn’t work; try again.
by Beergut on Jan 1, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever wrote this...
…smokes crack.
A&M played a nice game in the first half. Good game plan defensively and the QB is a playmaker. But Georgia destroyed A&M in the second half by completely shutting down the A&M offense and running it down the Aggies’ throats. Think you might want to go back and rewatch the game.
by GeronimoDoom on Jan 1, 2010 11:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Verify
You need to check before you post things like this. A&M had over twice the yardage of UGA and 29 first downs to UGA’s 7 at the END OF THE THIRD quarter. UGA got most of their yardage on their last two drives when the Aggie D quit. Jerrod Johnson simply had an off day passing. Long rests for bowl games have always helped run teams and hurt passing games. And of course, there was the special teams….
by sterry on Jan 1, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
29 first downs, sir?
Were you checking the stats yourself?
“Jerrod Johnson simply had an off day passing.”
Right.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good point.
That’s why I really wasn’t suggesting they are necessarily faster (hence the word “talent,” which is a little more general in meaning). I was, however, suggesting that the SEC has the BEST players based on the NFL numbers. Knock yourself out on that one.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, post of out of place.
Nothing to see here, move along. :)
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This guy is a joke . . .
You got beat by 24 points by the worst UGA team in 10 -15 years. A UGA team that would rather be sitting in Leach’s electrical closet than playing A&M in the Independence Bowl. Your a joke and your A&M team would have gone 0 – 11 playing an SEC schedule. S E C, S E C, S E C, !!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Laughable on Jan 1, 2010 11:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man, don't do that.
If there is one thing the guy is right about, it’s chanting that every five minutes.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely, let's knock it off with the SEC chant
Before the Independence Bowl, the last time a band of Georgia fans got an SEC, SEC, SEC, chant going while leading against a Big XII team was Sept. 1 after a big-time hit on a Oklahoma State player in a game we were winning 7 – 0 at the time.
We then got the crap kicked out of us. The chant was appropriate against Hawaii, who was only in the Sugar Bowl because they didn’t face SEC-caliber competition. The chant might even make sense against an ACC team because as a conference they seem not-quite-ready-for-prime-time (although VT sure did). But when Georgia beats A&M, it means my school beat my sister’s school, so I get to gloat at Thanksgiving. But it doesn’t mean anything about the conferences overall.
by Travis Rice on Jan 2, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AJ Green isn't better than Jeff Fuller?
You made this determination from one meaningless bowl game?
Jeez.
Let’s see where AJ Green and Jeff Fuller are drafted.
by Texas_Dawg on Jan 1, 2010 11:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Laughable
Forgot to mention we didn’t have a defensive coaching staff. Holy hell this guy is stupid . . .
by Laughable on Jan 1, 2010 11:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of things wrong with this writeup, but the “A.J. Green is a good WR, but he isn’t any better than Jeff Fuller or Uzoma Nwachukwu” part makes you sound like a clown. So you’re going to determine that based off a single performance in a crap bowl game when the guy hasn’t played in about a month and a half? How does that work?
by get swoll yunel on Jan 1, 2010 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
season stats
A.J. Green – 47 rec – 751 yds – 16 ypc – 6 TD
Uzoma Nwachukwu – 40 rec – 708 yds – 17.7 ypc – 6 TD
Jeff Fuller – 41 rec – 568 yds – 13.9 ypc – 7 TD
Fuller and EZ also play in a more balanced offensive attack, where the ball is spread around (4 receivers with 40 or more catches), while Green is the main focus of Georgia’s aerial attack (second-leading receiver has only 23 receptions).
Looking at those stats, I have NO IDEA why I’d think EZ and Fuller are just as good as Green, no idea at all. ::rolleyes::
by Beergut on Jan 1, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least read his entire response before you reply to it.
when the guy hasn’t played in about a month and a half?
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 1, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Link
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 1, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for saving me the effort.
by get swoll yunel on Jan 1, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You really don't know what you're getting into with this blog.
For your own sanity, its probably best to just never come back.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 1, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my mistake
I didn’t notice that Georgia hadn’t updated their cumulative season stats yet.
Wow.
That extra 51 yards and 4 receptions really killed my argument.
Fuller and Nwachukwu both had roughly a month off before the bowl game, too. I’m not basing this just on the bowl game, but also on their season performance as a whole.
by Beergut on Jan 1, 2010 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, how many games have you watched him play?
I haven’t seen Texas A & M’s guys prior to now. But you need to consider that
A. AJ Green played in only 9 1/2 games this year out of 13. I see Fuller had three games out, but not the other guy. So Green had more catches and yards than both of them in the same or fewer games.
B. Your guys have Johnson at QB. Green had Cox this year. Does that negate the balance issue? How about the hurry-up offense thing, where A & M is running so many more plays than the opponent?
C. Green had the same amount of yards and receptions in a full season LAST year, as true freshman, when the attack was much more balanced and a much better QB was around.
D. If you had actually seen the guy play you would have understood what’s going on here. AJ GREEN IS DOUBLE-COVERED EVERY GAME. And in almost every game he has been in he has STILL made remarkable highlight-reel catches. Here are his game-long catches this year, despite being double-covered and having Cox at QB: 29, 34, 29, 56, 32, 21, 65, 19, 12, 16. Texas A & M was the worst game he had where he played a whole game; I think your D gets some credit for that; the constant blitzing really took out the time for the long routes to Green. But you need to do more homework and watch the guy play a little more before you make a claim that runs so totally counter to conventional wisdom.
by rbubp on Jan 1, 2010 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A&M didn't double-cover him
There were plenty of times where Dustin Harris had him with no safety help, and he acquitted himself very well.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's probably true
because of all the blitzing. In fact, Kines’ blitzing on every play approach caught Georgia quite off guard. As I mentioned earlier, A & M deserves credit for that. The blitzing also shortened the pass patterns, and Green is a downfield receiver, not a slot one.
I’ll amend my statement to say he was double-covered in nearly every game.
Nonetheless, you’ve done no amending yourself. As nearly everyone here has mentioned, you should probably be familiar more than one performance before you make such a judgement. Green did not play well—his timing was very off; you defended well. Regardless, Georgia is very far from receiver U., yet it’s had a few decent ones the past few years, and Green is the best receiver Georgia has ever had BY FAR. Do your homework next time before saying something so buffoonish and belittling.
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where do you think Green, Fuller, and Nwachukwu will be drafted?
Just curious.
by Texas_Dawg on Jan 1, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my.
Um, Green plays against SEC defenses with a mediocre QB. Fuller and whoever the other guy is play in the goofy 5-wide, make it take it, frontyard football Big 12.
AJ Green, barring injuries and with a decent QB, would put up 1500 yards in the B12.
by Texas_Dawg on Jan 1, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you just proved our point
Those numbers are with AJ Green being out for 4 games due to injury… not just a month before the bowl game. Putting up the same numbers as your best receivers, in fewer games and (taking from your own words) as the primary receiver meaning that EVERYONE IN THE STADIUM KNOWS WHEN IT’S A PASS, IT’S GOING TO AJ….. and he still puts up these numbers. Also to your point, with a subpar QB throwing at him, and if you ever watched a UGA game you’d see that at least 2 catches he makes from Cox are uncatchable. ALSO that your QB puts up the ball more times a game (497 to cox’s 331). As for more balaced attack? Do you just type to see words appear in front of you? On the season UGA was 331 pass and 336 run. How many running plays did AM run? 497? not even close. try 335. If balance is 63/37, then sir, I would love to play the lottery with you and split our winnings down the middle.
If your goal was to have more ppl sign up for this blog just to prove how idiotic your post was, then congratulations: SUCCESS
by knowshon loves legos on Jan 2, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
balanced attack
in that we spread the ball around in our passing game to more than just one wide receiver, while Green benefits from being the primary target
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in that we spread the ball around in our passing game to more than just one wide receiver, while Green is hindered by a shoulder injury
fixed.
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 2, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Beergut, why can't you just admit that no matter how you cut it
the numbers YOU cited are not on your side?
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps some of your points are valid.......
But here’s the thing. When a team with a below average QB, a back 7 without the speed to handle your skill players, an overhyped WR (which you have at least 2 WR’s as good as – going against an apparently slow back 7), a simplified offense, and marginal team speed smokes you by 24 points (and remember, it could easily have been 30 if we hadn’t put in all of our scrubs), there’s a rather LARGE disconnect there. You at least have to acknowledge that much.
FWIW, as far as us playing so far off your receivers, that’s how we were schemed all year (and the previous few years), and is why Martinez is gone. Our coaches on defense had gotten to the point where they were so scared of giving up the big play, we never pressed anybody. Consequently, while we may not have given up a ton of big plays, we gave up a whole lot of small ones and didn’t create many turnovers because there was no pressure on the offense. Just a soft zone, ALL the time. Drove us fans nuts. Has nothing to do with having or lacking speed, but rather the mentality of the defensive coaches. Hopefully our new coordinator will rectify that, whoever he ends up being.
You guys definitely have a lot of weapons though. Good luck to you next year. While I don’t understand all of your traditions, I do think A&M is one of those unique spots in the college football universe, and I would like to see you guys return to being a power.
by Greenville_Dawg on Jan 1, 2010 6:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the disconnect
is that our special teams are “special ed” special
As for the defensive scheme, I hear you on that one; we had the same issue with Carl Torbush in 2005, when the closest a DB would come to a WR was an 8 yd cushion
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really....
Sour grapes. Dang, you just got bitch slapped by a mediocre SEC team, a team without a D/C. If the B12 is SOOOO much better than the SEC then why do you continually lose to the SEC. Bama is going to annihilate Texas in a week. Get used to being #2 or #3 to the SEC. Texas A&M has a LONG way to go to even be relevant in college football.
by marquaveous on Jan 1, 2010 6:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
show me where I said the Big 12 is superior to the SEC?
I’ll be waiting.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Four Points
1. Georgia, with its worst defense in years and only a defensive line coach and two graduate assistants coaching the D, held your vaunted Big 12 offense to only two touchdowns that mattered. What was that you were saying about SEC defenses?
2. Georgia’s offense, which has been awful this year and is led by a quarterback who “wouldn’t even be second-string at several Big 12 schools,” ONLY gained 366 yards on your defense.
3. AJ Green has been injured the last half of the year.
4. Your team has a player named “Christine.”
That is all.
by James Brown on Jan 1, 2010 7:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
. Georgia’s offense, which has been awful this year and is led by a quarterback who "wouldn’t even be second-string at several Big 12 schools," ONLY gained 366 yards on your defense.
Hence my comparison of Georgia to Baylor, UAB, Iowa State, and New Mexico as teams that our defense held to below 400 yards of total offense. You’ll never hear any claims from Aggie fans that we have a great defense this season; therefore, the point here is that if your offense can’t break 400 yds against a defense ranked in the 100s, your offense isn’t very good.
Your team has a player named "Christine."
Wow, name smack; did you even go to college? Are you still in elementary school? His name is pronounced “Christian”, and he gained 77 yds on 15 carries (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD against your incredible “SEC speed”. I wouldn’t ridicule someone who was kicking your ass.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why stop there ? UGA gained yards in 7 of 8 categories; yet to you only 1 category COUNTS
21 yards on 1 Punt Return (you had 1 for 2 yards) doesn’t COUNT ?
107 yards on 2 kick-off returns 53 avg (you had 8 for 157 yards, 19 avg) , doesn’t COUNT ?
74 yards on 2 Interception returns (you have 1 for 39 yards), doesn’t COUNT ?
43 yards more on Punts (you 206 & 249 UGA on fewer punts), doesn’t COUNT ?
49 yards on field goal by UGA (Texas A&M MISSED their field goal), doesn’t COUNT ?
65 yards you gave us on Penalties (TX A&M gained 39 yds on our penalties), doesn’t COUNT?
208 yards Rushing to your itty-bitty 109 yards, that doesn’t COUNT either ?
158 yards to your 362 yards Passing (59 Passes) is ALL that counts, right ?
725 UGA yards, and pardon me THOSE 7 CATEGORIES, ALL COUNT.
Let’s do Texas A&M’s shall we Beergut ?
2 yards on 1 Punt Return
157 yards on 8 kick-off returns,19 avg.
39 yards on ONLY 1 Interception return.
-43 yards more on Punts (you 206 & 249 UGA on fewer punts), subtract.
0 Texas A&M MISSED their field goal.
39 yards we gave you on Penalties.
109 yards, that’s all you got rushing.
362 yards Passing (59 Passes) is ALL that counts
665 yards Texas A&M, now where is the ADVANTAGE Texas A&M has in YARDS ?
It doesn’t exist, which is why they keep up with all the yards a team gets.
A team is a team.
If you have a SORRY DEFENSE and make NO MISTAKE about it the ENTIRE BIG XII has a SORRY DEFENSE and always has, you are going to give up yards in all 7 areas that they keep up with it on.
If the object of COLLEGE FOOTBALL were to be throw 59 passes with 1 QB (complete only 29 and try to call that more than half) for 362 yards, then it WOULDN’T MATTER he THREW 2 INTERCEPTIONS returned for 74 yards, wouldn’t matter your punter had 29 yard average which last I looked was one-third less than 42 avg for UGA, wouldn’t matter you got out-rushed 2 to 1, wouldn’t matter you missed your field goal while we made a 50-yarder, wouldn’t matter that you avg 19 on 8 kick-off returns to our 53 avg, wouldn’t matter that you had more penalties for more yards.
Maybe we should change the name of the game between 2 TEAMS from football to PASS HAPPY.
Which is why you LOST, why the Big XII has LOST EVERY BOWL AGAINST THE SEC LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AT 5 AND COUNTING.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I have read many dumb sports articles in my day, but this has to rank up there with the best of them.
1) To address your argument about Big12 QB’s. Name me the most successful one in the NFL….don’t worry, I’ll wait. His name is Sage Rosenfels. Wow. Great argument there.
2) Of course Big12 offenses will rack up more yards because it is a pass happy league with no defense. SEC teams generally dominate the ground game, and TOP.
3) AJ Green is a phenomenal athlete, for you to compare him to two average guys is complete blasphemy. Turn your channel from A&M replays every once in a while and join the rest of us fans and watch college football. AJ missed 4 games this year and was double covered by every defense he played against.
4) Apparently UGA doesn’t have speed because of one 14 yard run?
5) A&M racked up a ton of yards on a below average defense that was being coached by two grad assistants, but was for the most part, kept off the scoreboard, which the last time I checked was the only stat that matters at the end of the day.
6) The SEC always dominates in bowl games….I think we went 8-2 as a conference last year, including UF beating the Big12’s best team in decades.
7) Bama is going to crush Texas
8) I can’t believe I actually registered an account just to respond to this ignorant rant.
by T-Rey on Jan 1, 2010 9:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
7) Bama is going to crush Texas
Oh really? Texas is not OU or A&M. Please don’t confuse the three.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 2, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
1. For the one-millionth time here, I DON’T CARE WHAT THEY DO IN THE NFL, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL HERE.
2. The “you play no defense” claim by SEC teams is ridiculous; go tell Oklahoma or Nebraska or texas they don’t play defense. The Big 12 has three teams in the top 10 in the nation in total defense; the SEC has two (Florida and ‘Bama). Yeah, we’re the pass-happy league with ‘no defense’ ::rolleyes::
3. Jeff Fuller is ‘average’? Your vaunted SEC defense just let an ‘average’ WR ring up over 100 yds on them in the bowl game. I’d be willing to bet your coaches don’t think Fuller or Nwachukwu are ‘average’. Maybe you should watch some football besides SEC games, and see what real WRs look like?
4. No, Georgia doesn’t have elite speed that is faster than every other team they play. Oklahoma State held y’all to 7 points earlier in the season, and our offense was able to move up and down the field against y’all b/c you couldn’t match up with our skill position players. As I said before, this idea that the SEC has more speed than other conferences is a myth. I’d say y’all are probably faster than most Big Ten teams, but don’t tell Penn State that.
7. I don’t see how this has any bearing on this discussion; I hope ’Bama crushes texas.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What coaches?
I’d be willing to bet your coaches don’t think Fuller or Nwachukwu are ‘average’.
We already told you three of four defensive coaches who made big bucks and had the experience to make adjustments were canned prior to this game. Try to keep up.
Graduate students held your offense to 14 points. Just sayin’…
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 2, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
clarification...
14 points ‘when it mattered’.
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 2, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to add one more twig to this burning trash pile of a post..
“his presence as a starter at Georgia is an indication of wider problem in the SEC. As a conference, the SEC truly lacks elite QBs”
Joe Cox is not a very good player, no doubt. His other scholarship offer was coming from Duke. But let’s take a look at Big 12 quarterbacks in the NFL:
Vince Young
Sage Rosenfels
Josh Freeman
Seneca Wallace
Stephen McGee
Chris Simms (sort of)
Here’s a few SEC QBs for you:
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Matthew Stafford
Jay Cutler
Jason Campbell
JaMarcus Russell (sort of)
Brodie Croyle
Rex Grossman
Matt Flynn
Erik Ainge
Big 12 has all those gaudy numbers, though—Chase Daniel, Joe Ganz, Jason White, Graham Harrell, Brad Smith. You might think about dismissing the pro set offenses in the SEC so easily; there’s a reason it’s called “pro set,” and there’s a reason Stafford went number one and Harrell’s off in the CFL. Oh yeah…Stafford’s from Texas, huh? Wonder why he didn’t stay home in the Big 12?
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 12:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
again
who cares who is in the NFL?
We’re talking about COLLEGE FOOTBALL here. What they do in the NFL is irrelevant.
It seems that insce you can’t refute what I said about current SEC QBs, i.e. y’all lack difference-makers at the position, your last resort is to start bringing up the NFL. I don’t see how Peyton Manning, a player who played his last college game in a 1998 bowl game, has anything to dom with college football today.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You may be able to get the point,
or perhaps not, that just because QBs in the SEC have not rolled up immense statistics doesn’t mean they aren’t any good. I was assuming, perhaps I am wrong, that by “elite” you meant “really good, the best there is.” Are you suggesting that the NFL is bypassing the best players in college for inferior ones, some other “elite”?
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What else could you have meant by “elite”?
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...
his presence as a starter at Georgia is an indication of wider problem in the SEC. As a conference, the SEC truly lacks elite QBs
We just lost the #1 overall draft pick, of course we’re going to be down in the Quarterback position. What happened when Bradford went down? What happened when Sanchez left school early? You don’t always go from a great quarterback to another great quarterback.
You’re not being realistic.
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 2, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so losing Stafford explains why 9 other teams lack elite QBs?
Last year, there was Tebow and this year there is Tebow and Mallett
What about the other ten teams? I’m not saying Georgia has to have an elite QB every year, I’m just pointing on a recurring trend in the SEC.
Bradford went down with an injury, and his backup played. Bradord isn’t the only elite QB in this conference, though. We lost Chase Daniel at Missouri, and Blaine Gabbert stepped up. Jerrod Johnson at A&M and Robert Griffin at Baylor (he missed the season with injury, but will be back next year) have stepped up to carry the banner for Big 12 QBs. I don’t think Colt McCoy had an elite season at texas, but he was certainly better than most of the crap the SEC throws out there and calls a QB.
The fact that Jevan Snead is a starter in the SEC tells you all you need to know.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that last year, there was only Tebow. Then, you mention Chase Daniel.
Matt Stafford wasn’t an elite QB? At least, not elite enough to mention him?
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't elite in the "right" way,
i.e., piling up points and yards in a pass-happy shotgun-based spread offense.
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Check your facts...
We didn’t run a shotgun based spread offense last year. We never have…typical Big12 fan, mouthing off about things they have never seen or even read about. As you said, we run a pro-set offense which ISN’T a shotgun based offense. Anyway, he was “elite” enough to be the number 1 overall pick in the draft with an arm Bradford and McCoy only dream of having.
by rxmaster on Jan 3, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Griffin, Chase Daniel, and Blaine Gabbert, LOL.
Those guys are not “elite” by anyone’s definition. Just step off, man. What, no Todd Reesing?? No Cody Hawkins?? No Zac Robinson??
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Presumably, you didn't expect UGA Bulldogs to read your "moral victory" post here ?
REPLY : Let’s see 2 of the Top 5 teams in America are SEC teams. SEC has Won more Bowl Games, More National Championships, has the largest attendance, and sent 10 teams to Bowl Games this year, and playing the Big XII who has the worst bowl record of all conferences, has lost the most National Championship BCS Title Games, has the weakest attendance of any conference, and sent 20 percent fewer teams to bowl games this year, cannot chant SEC SEC SEC to you ? We do apologize. Somehow we must have had the mistaken impression that in fact The SEC is and has been the Best Conference with the Most Bowl Wins, Highest Bowl Winning Percentage, Most Attendance, and Most Players in the NFL. As for The SEC Speed, sir, did you not notice it in a 20-44 BLOW-OUT of Biblical Proportions, or are you used to getting beat by 44-20 scores ? The Big XII has a Losing Record to The SEC in Bowl Games this year because of this 44-20. You have 2 more games putting up OK State and Texas. At this point, what we do know is that UGA of The SEC totally annihilated Texas A&M I think. Now, don’t let me get carried away please. Let me calculate. 3 TD is 21 points and a field goal is 24 points. 24 points plus the miserable 20 you managed against our speed on Defense, finally achieves our total by our Lousy SEC team. Texas A&M ended with a LOSING RECORD 6-7. The SEC has 10 teams better than that, and the Big XII sent Texas A&M as 1 of your Top 8 teams. You completed LESS THAN HALF YOUR PASSES, our sorry QB only completed MORE THAN HALF his passes against Texas A&M. You rushed for 109 yards and we rushed for 208. You were not as disciplined either with both more penalties in total and for more yards penalized than UGA. Texas A&M beat no team who is ranked in the Top 25 today, while UGA beat for example Number 9 Georgia Tech. Texas A&M also threw TWICE as many interceptions by your better QB than our worse QB. Our Offense with no speed and no QB kept the ball away from your offense 32 minutes to your only 27 minutes. Why did you get blown away ? Because your undisciplined team, did not complete as good a percentage of your passes as our worse QB did against your defense, you could not run the football either, and we ran at will with our speed, our receivers caught a higher percentage of the passes thrown to them and will be Drafted Higher in the NFL Draft to add to the 45 NFL speedy Bulldogs there now already which only 3 teams in all of America have more in the NFL than we do, because both our OL and DL dominated the game, and because our Coach is a lot better at 90-27 in his 1st 9 years as your Coach Mike Sherman who has had a losing record every year of his career at Texas A&M has managed with his 4-8 last year and 6-7 record this year for a 2-year total of 10-15 and no bowl victory. And, because Coach Richt’s Special Teams also ran rings around Texas A&M with our speed and athleticism along with our Top 7 Ranked Recruiting Class all 9 years of Coach Richt’s Career at UGA. This Bowl Victory by Coach Richt is his 7th against 2 Losses and every season he has Won at Least 8 wins, in fact UGA has 8 wins every year starting 1997 which is 13 years, and longer than any other team in America. It also is UGA’s 26 Bowl Wins now, which only Southern California, Alabama, and Pennsylvania State have more than UGA’s 26 Bowl Wins, and no Big XII team by the way. It’s 700 miles from here to Shreveport, and you live right there. The Bowl Game was sold out and there were more UGA fans watching the game on TV than Texas A&M fans, by a wide margin. There are after all only 5 teams in all of America with a larger Attendance than UGA. Texas A&M is not one of them. The UGA fans spent a lot more money and had a far larger impact on your Economy there, than did the A&M fans, all of you of which, live right there. You had more at the game, and they were all miserable, except for you who I guess thought you watched a Win, or a Moral Victory of some kind against our lack of team speed and lack of a QB in a conference of no offense, that just scored 44 damn points on you despite all these short-comings you point out about us and our Conference. Texas A&M All-Time has a 13-18 LOSING BOWL RECORD. We presume you wrote the same bravado and braggadocio about all those far more losses in bowl games than wins, as well, right ? While UGA has 731 wins, Texas A&M only has 665 wins, 66 fewer wins than UGA. But, I am sure you had the better QB and the faster players and the better receivers and were in a better conference with more people attending, while you beat NO RANKED TEAM, while our slower players, in an inferior conference, with no one watching, and no good receiver, and no speed, and no QB and no Coach or Special Teams, just got what ? Lucky because of a blocked field goal, 2 interceptions, a kick-off returned for TD, a botched on-side kick-off because you were LOSING by 3 TD and a field goal, never mind the fact that our Offense garnered 3 TD by running the football right up your gut 3 times, and our Tight End caught 2 TD passes by himself, and by the way, you left off your Special Teams’ botched 2-point attempt our speed seemed quite evident in too. Your Offense scored 2 passing TD and 1 rushing TD. Our Offense scored 2 passing TD and 3 rushing TD. Sure our Special Teams with SEC speed ran rings around your Special Teams for another TD and a Field Goal, neither of which did you begin to match with your speed. But, our Offense scored JUST AS MANY PASSING TD as Texas A&M did, and scored 3 TIMES AS MANY RUSHING TDs as Texas A&M could manage.
You are really unbelievable what you have written here. Of course, if you could play ANY DAMN defense in the Big XII we would not have returned the kickoff for the TD, nor thrown just as many passing TD as you did, nor would we have scored 3 times as many rushing TD as did Texas A&M of the mighty Big XII, and added a field goal of 51 yards for good measure. But, the fact remains the Big XII is OVER-RATED and plays NO DEFENSE. Evidence 44-20.
Your QB 2 TD passes, 2 Interceptions, completed less than half his passes.
Our horrible QB 2 TD passes, 1 interceptions, completed more than half his passes.
Our QB won 44-20 over your QB.
Your Field Goal attempt was BLOCKED. We made our field goal from 51 yards.
Other not mentioned snafus on Texas A&M’s part on Special Teams was your punter punted the ball 1/3 the distance that our UGA punter did.
I don’t know.
On the same field, in the same weather. In the same conditions. With the same crowd in the same stadium. Playing each other. 20-44, and you run in here with this B.S.
The Big XII is now :
49-49 Big XII in Bowl Games All-Time.
193-152-9 SEC in Bowl Games All-Time.
Homer.
I actually thought Texas A&M played a pretty good game. I didn’t think it would be that close, 24 point chow down in ALL PHASES of the game.
Texas A&M College Station has 1 of your men’s sports teams with a 917 Academic Progress Rate, which is NCAA PROBATION limiting the number of scholarships, in case you might be interested.
Texas A&M College Station has a 946 APR in football; UGA is 976 a whole hell of a lot better, as well.
I am searching for your so-called superiority in something, truly I am sir.
According to Rivals for this Signing Date coming up, Texas A&M is Number 12 in the Nation in Recruiting. Very nice. Congratulations.
UGA is Number 7 Rivals Recruiting 2010 Signing Date 4 weeks away.
Perhaps Texas A&M College Station can add to your only 25 NFL players, but it doesn’t look like you are going to catch up with our 45 already there by direct comparison too.
And, if the SEC didn’t have any QB last year, then why was the Number 1 Draft Pick in the 1st Round of the NFL Draft, our QB from UGA Bulldogs, who by the way, signed a $60 million dollar guaranteed contract while you went 4-8.
6-7 now.
4-8.
6-7.
And, it is scary how good you will be next year ?
Can’t wait Bubba.
This was really fun.
Thanks for the laughs trying to compare your players to ours, reviewing a game YOU LOST by MORE THAN TWICE YOUR SCORE 20-44. We called off the Dawgs, by the way, and put in our 5th string while you scored a TD against them with 1 minute and 13 seconds on the clock to make it even that close.
God Almighty what a obliteration to have to put up with this braggadocio from you, sir.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 2, 2010 4:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I made it this far
You completed LESS THAN HALF YOUR PASSES, our sorry QB only completed MORE THAN HALF his passes against Texas A&M.
Jerrod was 29-58 for 362 yards, and rushed for 51 yards. 29/58 means he completed exactly half of his passes, not ‘less than half’. I’m not sure where you learned basic math, but completing 50% is not ‘less than half’.
Jerrod also gained more yards of total offense by himself than your entire team. If you want to denigrate our team, there are areas you can point to (special teams, hello?), but our QB isn’t one of them.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You made it farther than I did. I stopped after what I presume was the second sentence.
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 2, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
B.S., you ONLY played 1 QB whole game, I watched, you didn't.
Texas A&M, with 1 QB the whole entire game threw 29 complete of 59 passes, LESS THAN HALF, for 2 TD and 2 costly interceptions.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
look at the box score
see that little part that mentions passing?
<a href="http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/ta13-uga.htmlhttp://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/ta13-uga.html" target="new">29-58
that is .500
by Beergut on Jan 3, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.. you really proved your point here.
Texas A&M would have only had to score 4 measly touchdowns to win this one outright.
Be real… A&M got beat down pretty badly. A&M was outplayed and outclassed. And if Mark Richt would have been anything like Urban Meyer the final score would have been 64-20.
Do you have a concussion?
Hang around and see how Texas does against Alabama. And you might get a good idea of What team speed looks like when the offensive lineman can run down your backs.
by tmc1 on Jan 2, 2010 5:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
SEC speed
As it was once pointed out by a commentator, and what Kirk Herbstreit STILL doesn’t understand, SEC speed isn’t in reference to WRs, RBs, QBs or DBs…SEC speed refers to exactly what you just said…our big lineman running nearly as fast as your “skill” players. What SEC Speed constitutes is our lineman are so fast. Everyone has fast QBs, fast DBs, fast RBs, but fast, athletic linemen are commonplace in the SEC. When the Big-12 gets one, he gets 4th in the Heisman race. No coincidence Suh is being coached by a former SEC DC.
by rxmaster on Jan 3, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and all those fast defensive linemen and linebackers and DBs
couldn’t catch Christine Michael, hence the reason I said this alleged speed edge is a myth
Your players on the lines and at linebacker are no faster than our players, nor are they faster than the average Big 12 defense.
When the Big-12 gets one, he gets 4th in the Heisman race. No coincidence Suh is being coached by a former SEC DC.
You do realize that Bo Pelini’s first coordinator position in college was at Nebraska, a Big 12 school, don’t you? I find it both amazing and pathetic that you would try to give the SEC some credit for Ndamukong Suh.
Everyone has fast QBs, fast DBs, fast RBs, but fast, athletic linemen are commonplace in the SEC.
I disagree; I have never seen a DT of the caliber of Suh in the SEC; Glenn Dorsey might come close, but he wasn’t as consistent, and nowhere near as athletic or as dominant a player.
by Beergut on Jan 4, 2010 5:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ndamukong Suh is NOT from Nebraska, or even from the Midwest. BEAT NO TOP 25 TEAM.
Ndamukong Suh is from Portland Oregon and runs the 40-yard dash in the blazing speed of 5.01.
Wow. I mean that is really fast. Geez. Never been an SEC Defensive Lineman. All Defensive Linemen we all know come from Nebraska or certainly come from the Midwest.
Beergut, 1st your statement was that there aren’t and never have been any Quarterbacks from The SEC (SEC 2-0 in bowl games vs. Big XII this year, 3-0 SEC over Big XII in bowl games last year), and now there never have been any Defensive Linemen from The SEC.
Richard Seymour is not a good Defensive Lineman ?
David Pollack is not a good Defensive Lineman ?
Glenn Dorsey sucked according to you. At least Glenn Dorsey is from Louisiana and played at LSU. Obviously, with over 100 tackles already in the NFL this season, you are correct Beergut, Glenn Dorsey sucks.
NOT 1 RANKED TEAM did Ndamukong Suh beat this season, not 1. There is not 1 team who will be ranked in the Final Polls Top 25 teams that Ndamukong Suh beat. Not 1.
Ndamukong Suh did not beat 1 single Top 25 team in the Final Polls last year, 2008, either.
2007 when Nebraska was 5-7, Ndamukong Suh did not beat a single Top 25 team in the Final Polls that year, either.
2006, his 1st Year, Nebraska and Ndamukong Suh also did not beat 1 single solitary Final AP Poll Top 25 team. He and Nebraska LOST in their Bowl Game to Auburn SEC.
In his entire Career at Nebraska, neither Nebraska nor Ndamukong Suh beat 1 single solitary Final AP Poll Top 25 team.
Wow. I mean that is really great. That Big XII Nebraska can run up its won/loss record like that.
Ndamukong Suh and Nebraska LOST 20 games in his 4-year career at Nebraska and NEVER BEAT 1 Final AP Poll Top 25 team.
All Glenn Dorsey did was beat Number 3 Virginia Tech, Number 12 Florida, Number 16 Tennessee in 2007, and beat Number 5 Ohio State. In 2006 Glenn Dorsey beat Number 17 Tennessee and Number 12 Arkansas, and he beat Number 17 Notre Dame. In 2005, Glenn Dorsey beat Number 9 Auburn, Number 12 Florida, and Number 13 Alabama, and he beat Number 17 Miami of Florida. In 2004 Glenn Dorsey beat Number 23 Florida and Number 3 Auburn.
Where is Ndamukong Suh’s BCS Title Game National Championship ? He doesn’t have 1 because Glenn Dorsey has it and The SEC has it. The SEC has won the BCS Title Game National Championship EVERY YEAR of Ndamukong Suh’s career while he like the Big XII every year, every team, plays cupcakes AND LOSES to the good teams. That’s why Ndamukong Suh of Portland Oregon does NOT have a BCS National Championship.
Let me know this time next year when Ndamukong Suh has 100 tackles already in the NFL like Glenn Dorsey, who like all SEC players enter the NFL ready to play, seasoned against tough competition, and able to perform at the top of their profession against real opponents.
Imagine Ndamukong Suh never beat 1 single solitary Final AP Poll Top 25 team in his entire career of playing games 54 times and NEVER BEAT a Final AP Poll Top 25 team in 54 games.
Imagine. Never mind there are no SEC Defensive Linemen with 5.01 speed in the 40-yard dash, damn that is really blazing speed for guy from Portland Oregon not even the Midwest who NEVER ever beat 1 single Final AP Poll Top 25 team in 54 games at Nebraska. But, managed to lose to Auburn in a bowl game.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 5, 2010 3:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T-Rey and Beergut, you SORRY BUTT LOSERS, poor sports, you got your butts beat again
T-Rey, sir :
There are 2 SEC teams destined to be 2 of the Top what ? Florida can no worse than what ? 4th in the Final Polls ?
He tells you all about these fanciful Big XII LIES, INNUENDOS, and MYTHS about the supposedly great Offenses of the Big XII, and your reply ?
There is only 1 team in the Big XII, Texas.
Duh.
You say T-Rey that Oklahoma and Texas A&M are not any good. Excuse me, that is our point. You’ve got 1 team. That 1 team beat whom ? Go ahead you can say it. Texas beat NO BCS TEAM out of conference. Texas did not even play a BCS Team out of Conference.
UL MONROE is not a BCS Conference Opponent
UTEP is not a BCS Conference Opponent
WYOMING is not a BCS Conference Opponent.
UCF GOLDEN KNIGHTS is not a BCS Conference Opponent.
That is for whom Texas played outside the Big XII and you say to him that Texas is the only team in the Big XII. How do we know that ?
Go ahead, how T-Rey ?
Nebraska played nothing but PATSIES this entire season too.
It is, after all, what the Big XII does. Then, you brag about how GREAT you are, to The SEC who just BEAT THE LIVING CRAP out of you, 44-20.
Oh, Texas is GREAT.
Really ?
Based upon what proof ?
You have 12 teams in the Big XII. You would think you could run your record up.
Texas played 4 absolute zero teams not a 1 in a single BCS Conference, and won 9 games against teams YOU SAY ARE NO DAMN GOOD, T-Rey.
That is OUR POINT.
By the way, that is LAME to make our POINT in YOUR reply.
You said nothing about his points, he like I, logged into to make.
Nothing is your reply about his point that The SEC having 15 QB in the NFL and that the Big XII does NOT HAVE A SINGLE QB in the NFL.
Nothing is your reply about his point that AJ Green will be DRAFTED in the NFL way higher than all these supposedly GREAT Big XII receivers, who to a man were beat like a drum 44-20. We even make the point, that had we left our starters in as the Mighty Big XII did against us, that you would NOT have had 20, but 14. And, that we could easily have scored 3 more times with our starters. 67-14. That’s about what this game, really was.
Nothing is your reply about his point that Alabama beat AT LEAST THE NUMBER 4 TEAM in America, Florida. Alabama ALSO beat Virginia Tech who is going to END UP ON THE TOP 10 of every Poll, also OBVIOUSLY.
Nothing is your reply about his point that the Big XII ALWAYS LOSES Bowl Games to The SEC EVERY TIME. Especially, the Big XII LOSES the BCS Bowl Games to The SEC. Especially the Big XII LOSES BCS Title National Championship Games to The SEC, since The SEC NEVER HAS LOST a BCS Title Game.
Noting is your reply to where is the SPEED on a team just BLOWN-OUT BY BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS 67-14, when all you guys point out is one 14-yard dash. Or brag about how great you were in-between the two 20-yard line markers. 67-14.
Nothing is your response to where is the Big XII team with 26 Bowl Wins ? UGA just got our 26th Bowl Win, and there is NOT a Big XII team with more, never mind that Alabama has MORE BOWL WINS THAN even UGA.
49-49 Big XII in Bowl Games All-Time.
193-152-9 SEC in Bowl Games All-Time.
Nothing is your reply to his point that Texas, if they are so great against the LOUSY DEFENSES OF THE BIG XII, why then are there FEWER PLAYERS IN THE NFL FROM TEXAS THAN FROM EVEN UGA BULLDOGS ?
Why is that ?
Even UGA of The SEC has MORE IN THE NFL than Texas.
And, YOUR point is that OUR POINT IS CORRECT, that there is ONLY 1 TEAM in the Big XII. And, even TEXAS doesn’t have as many players in the NFL as even lowly UGA Bulldogs do.
You have 12 teams in the Mighty Big XII and the Big XII is 6-9 all 2009-2020 Football Season against BCS Conference Opponents, including all the Bowl Games.
That’s half a win per Big XII team over BCS Conference Opponents.
LOSING RECORD for the Big XII.
And, we come in here and tell you the Big XII only has 1 team and that that 1 team is GREAT based upon what, pray tell ?
And, your REPLY T-Rey is that we are WRONG that there is ONLY 1 TEAM in the Big XII.
Well, that’s our point.
6-9 against BCS Conference Teams by the ENTIRE Big XII all season includes Bowls.
The SEC is 13-7.
The Big XII LOST every game to the Big East and to Navy, for God’s sake.
Go beat the Conference USA and brag to them how much better you are than everybody else with ZERO EVIDENCE in (1) games against BCS Conference teams (2) NFL (3) Bowl Games against The SEC and ZERO Evidence in (4) BCS Title Games against The SEC either EVER.
Oh, Texas is great.
The Big XII is the WORST CONFERENCE in the Average Final BCS Ranking of your 12 teams at Average Ranking of 51. SEC Average BCS Ranking ? 35.
Texas, even against this WEAK VERY WEAK COMPETITION with you coming in here saying there only is 1 Big XII team T-Rey is Number 55 in the nation in rushing the football.
How in the living hell is Texas going to have the football any more than Texas A&M did against UGA Bulldogs, even ?
How ?
Texas CANNOT RUN THE FOOTBALL to save their soul.
Texas is Number 95 in the nation in punting. So, if Texas cannot run the football and is 1-dimensional as they most assuredly are, if Texas cannot make their first downs against Alabama, then Texas will also LOSE FIELD POSITION to SEC Alabama, the Consensus Number 1 team in the nation for beating TWO REAL OPPONENTS this season, unlike Texas’ paper tiger 13-0 beating you say NO ONE.
Texas is Number 80 in the nation in allowing SACKS.
I guess you have your head up your butt if you think Nick Saban is not going to get after Colt McCoy in the backfield and knock him on his butt EVERY PLAY.
T-Rey, please don’t forget to come in here AFTER your 1-team conference gets it 1-team butt kicked by a real football team as proved on the field against REAL OPPONENTS such Florida and Virginia Tech, unlike the pansies Texas played this season.
You guys in the Big XII talk such a Big Game BEFORE the game.
Afterwards, you are ALWAYS no where to be found.
BCS Title Games have been going on since 1998 :
1998 SEC TN vols NC
2003 SEC LSU NC
2006 SEC Florida NC
2007 SEC LSU NC
2008 SEC Florida NC
2009 SEC Alabama is Number 1 beat Va Tech and Florida 2 Top 10 teams.
Texas hasn’t even played anyone, let alone BEAT a Top team.
By the way, the Big XII LOST last year :
2008 Big XII LOST BCS Title Game NC
2004 Big XII LOST BCS Title Game NC
2003 Big XII LOST BCS Title Game NC
2001 Big XII LOST BCS Title Game NC
The only 2 the Big XII won were 2000 and 2005, neither against The SEC.
Big XII in BCS Title Games NC IS THE WORST CONFERENCE 4 LOSSES 2 wins.
SEC in BCS Title Games NC is The BEST CONFERENCE 5-0 includes 2-0 vs Big XII.
If Texas is so great, why didn’t they bother to schedule even 1 single BCS Conference Opponent all season long to prove it ? Why do they ONLY HAVE 1 BCS Title NC Game? Why has Nebraska done NOTHING but LOSE in BCS Title NC Games ? Why is Oklahoma only 1 win and 3 LOSSES in BCS Title NC Games ?
While The SEC in BCS Title NC Games is UNDEFEATED 5-0 ?
You Big XII HOMERS make me sick with your B.S. HYPE and voting for your teams at the top of the Polls when they haven’t played 1 single BCS Conference Opponent and brag how great they are only to be in fact 2-4 to our 5-0 in BCS Title NC Games.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 2, 2010 10:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I could not even read this shit if I had to
by NeTexHorn on Jan 2, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Brown
I highly doubt you are the real Thomas Brown. But I’m not sure why you called me out so much, I think you might have had the wrong guy. You and I were arguing the same thing….
by T-Rey on Jan 2, 2010 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ladies and Gentlemen, may I introduce
the Other Thomas Brown. Making UGA alums proud for several months now.
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SEC Chant
Oh by the way, I will add this. Quit crying just because you aren’t in the SEC and don’t get to chant. Every real college football fan in america knows it is hands down the best conference and when we have to go three weeks hearing about your “high-powered offense that is ranked 5th nationally in yards and points scored” we are going to chant when our “offenses that cant put up points” hangs 44 on you, and when are defense runs circles around you. Thats the way it goes. I’m sure you heard it from the Superdome last night, and you are gonna hear it from Pasedina next week. Its our thing. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT……BEAT US.
by T-Rey on Jan 2, 2010 1:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watching games
3. Jeff Fuller is ‘average’? Your vaunted SEC defense just let an ‘average’ WR ring up over 100 yds on them in the bowl game. I’d be willing to bet your coaches don’t think Fuller or Nwachukwu are ‘average’. Maybe you should watch some football besides SEC games, and see what real WRs look like?
Why would I want to watch anything else than SEC games? Everything else is highly inferior. You say ask Nebraska/Texas/OU about defense, I will after the game in Pasedina, we will see who plays defense. We saw it last year when UF beat the brakes off of OU and the “heisman” winner. HAHA. You argue that players in the NFL doesn’t refute the sec being fast and you are correct. It refutes the most NFL ready players coming in, which by that argument, has to be the SEC, because it is the best conference where the most elite football is played. Its a fact, not an opinion. YOU ARE WHINING. UGA was not excited about being in Shreveport, LA on Christmas day. UGA was not excited about playing a weak big12 team, but none-the-less, we showed up and dominated a football game. I don’t understand why we are arguing over a blowout win. And fortunately for A&M Coach Richt has much more class than some of his peers, because that game could have easily been 65-13 had we left the starters in the game.
by T-Rey on Jan 2, 2010 2:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
STILL WAITING
Oh and I’m still waiting for you to find me a more successful NFL Big12 QB……i’ll prolly take a nap.
by T-Rey on Jan 2, 2010 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if you can point out to me
how what players do in the NFL has ANYTHING to do with how they play in college, I’ll answer your question.
I’m not sure why a Georgia fan is trying to take credit for a Tennessee alum, anyway.
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could it have to do with your post's comments about "SEC speed" and SEC quarterbacks?
Surely not.
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
again
NFL has nothing to do with college production.
compare college to college if you want to support your argument, not college to NFL
the fact that y’all have to bring up the NFL just means you can’t argue onthe facts, so you are trying to change the subject to divert attention from the topic at hand
by Beergut on Jan 2, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, write what you mean, then. You're the one who started this.
“Elite” is a somewhat ambiguous term. “SEC” rather explicitly suggests the entire conference.
I would suggest saying something like “the problem with the SEC is that their QBs do not run up huge numbers in college like the Big 12.”
Although it would be just as stupid a the statement as the one you actually DID make, at least it would clarify what you’re attempting to say.
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll re-state this, because you may have been distracted and missed it.
Just because QBs in the SEC have not rolled up immense statistics doesn’t mean they aren’t any good. I was assuming, perhaps I am wrong, that by your use of the word "elite" you meant "really good, the best there is." Apparently you are suggesting that the NFL is bypassing the best players in college for inferior ones, some other "elite"?
addendum:
Apparently what you REALLY meant is “Elite, in the sense of producing large quantities of statistic against mediocre competition, even though the QBs may not actually be very good against the best competition, because they won’t play in the NFL, like the Colts, McCoy and, Brennan, who, once they ran into legit defenses like Georgia 07 or Nebraska 09, did not fare so well, and whom will never succeed in the NFL because they are ca;;ed elite by certain bloggers but not elite enough to succeed against the best.” (McCoy might play, but he almost certainly will not be any good.)
Does that sum up what you meant?
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm so you would not take McCoy over your current quarterback? We are talking about the same McCoy who is the all-time leader in wins and playing in the MNCG? The same one who with a win will become the second quarterback all-time to win four bowl games? I believe that he will also become the leader in career completion % after this bowl game as well.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 2, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Because Colt McCoy’s fundamentals are very poor—constantly throwing off his back foot; his arm is weak; and he wouldn’t make it any better than Joe Cox has in a pro-set offense.
Which is not to say that Cox is better, he’s clearly not…rather, it’s simply that McCoy isn’t ready for a drop-back, progression-read, make all the throws offense. And again, because Texas doesn’t run such a thing is part of why Stafford didn’t stick around those parts.
The fact that Cox wasn’t that good at it either was a big part of why Georgia was 8-5 this year. Next year we expect we have a redshirt freshman who will be a much better fit.
by rbubp on Jan 2, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Colt McCoy would be much better than Cox in that offense. Stafford went to UGA because of his famiilies longstanding relationship with Richt.
by miketag on Jan 3, 2010 3:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
N, he wouldn;t.
Accurate downfield throws are at a premium in pro-set. And Colt has always thrown off his back foot, not just this year.
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on Stafford.
Kid has a cannon for an arm and can make all the throws. From the little I saw on Stafford, he looked like he could be a bit erratic at times. Colt does throw off his back foot sometimes, but that could be attributed to our line leaving a lot to be desired.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 3, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TX fan says TX Offensive Line leaves A LOT to be DESIRED
I agree with you on the Texas Longhorns’ Offensive Line is horrible.
NCAA Number 80 in giving up SACKS and you didn’t even play a SINGLE BCS CONFERENCE OPPONENT out of conference.
As for your statement that Colt McCoy “DOES THROW OFF HIS BACK FOOT SOMETIMES” too, is that your excuse for his 12 INTERCEPTIONS ?
The question I have, is with all these OBVIOUS SHORT-COMINGS in your PASSING GAME, who the hell is your Offensive Coordinator who then doesn’t RUN THE FOOTBALL, EVER ?
NCAA Number 55 in Rushing Offense, Texas as well. Jeez Louise, Texas did not beat a SINGLE TEAM in the Top 18 teams in America, while Alabama beat Number 4 Florida and Number 9 Virginia Tech – for example – and, TX did not play any out-of-conference games against any BCS Conference opponent, and all you can muster against all those CUPCAKES is NCAA Number 55 in Rushing Offense ?
TEXAS and the Big XII is SO OVER YOUR HEAD playing a team like Alabama.
4 BCS Title Games the Big XII has ALREADY LOST, an 8-17 DISADVANTAGE against The Mighty SEC in Bowl Games including 5 in a row last year and this year, with The SEC having won the National Championship EVERY YEAR of Colt McCoy’s career, while The Mighty SEC is 5-0 in BCS Title Game National Championship Games.
12 Interceptions, throws off his back foot, has NO Offensive Line, cannot run the ball behind sorry OL either obviously, NEVER BEAT an SEC team in the BCS Title Game but ALWAYS lose and this blog is about how great the Big XII is.
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by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Recognize that Stafford was erratic, but he was also asked to do a lot more
such as progressive reads, dropback reads, and throws all over the field. Those result in more yards per completion and TDs per attempt but also in lower completion percentages.
That’s kind of the point about how we define “elite.” Tebow’s a great QB. But he doesn’t do what a QB traditionally does. Was Graham Harrell “elite”? The guy couldn’t even get a sniff at the NFL.
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the definition of elite though? Are we talking about success at the college level or Pro? Since this is a Big XII board, I would assume we are talking about success at the college level. If that is the case, what are the criteria we will use to define “elite”? Wins? TD to INT ratio? Yards? Completion %? Championships? Bowl Wins? Winning the Heisman? (Haha) This could go on and on and can be skewed depending on how you look/interpret the stats.
Back to Colt, I love him as the quarterback of my Texas Longhorns. I would not want to trade quarterbacks with anyone. Now, lets look at this from another perspective. I am also a fan of the Cowboys. Would I want Colt as a quarterback in Dallas? As a starter next year, no. As a third string guy to sit and learn, then yes. Give him 3-4 years to learn the system then lets see.
Tebow is a great “college quarterback”. Would I want him on my NFL team? Only if I already all the pieces in place to win a championship.
Graham Harrell was elite for what he was asked to do at the college level. He was/is a douche but he was an awesome piece in the Mike Leach puzzle.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 3, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See, that's just it.
This whole line of discussion started based on comments about SEC QBs in the original post (please see those at top to see how outrageous they are). When I pointed out that there are few Big 12 SEC QBs in the NFL and several more SEC QBs there, poster said that was irrelevantt and started throwing around Chase Daniel and Robert Griffin as examples of “elite” QBs.
The point is “elite” is a broad and somewhat ambiguous term, and the evaluation of QB play in entire conferences is much complex than a single, broad term can possibly hope to accomplish. So we’re in agreement here: Colt is in the right system for him, and he is excellent at it, and is therefore an outstanding quarterback. Joe Cox might actually be better at something like the TTU system, ironically…but regardless, he was UGA’s QB and they aren’t going to rearrange the whole system and all of the players fro one year. They thought Cox would be better than he was, too, but he just didn’t have the arm to be a great pocket passer.
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Colt's year this year is pretty similar to Matt Stafford's last year
…and the guy whose wins record Colt just broke was David Greene’s (UGA 2001-04); and Tebow just won the Heisman two years ago, and has two Nat’l Championships; and there are a bunch of SEC QBs starting and playing in the NFL and not so many from the Big 12. So, hence, I’m having a hard time with the idea that “As a conference, the SEC truly lacks elite QBs, which is one of the reasons their offenses are so pedestrian.”
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you. It is very difficult to put boundaries on "elite".
Chase Daniel being elite is laughable. Robert Griffin is a helluva athlete and will be a great addition to an NFL roster in a couple of years. Now if that position is quarterback, that is yet to be determined.
but regardless, he was UGA’s QB and they aren’t going to rearrange the whole system and all of the players fro one year.
This is one thing that Texas has done that has actually made us better. When VY was here, they tried to make him conform to the same system that they used for Mock, Applewhite and Simms. It wasn’t until they changed up the system to match his abilities that he began to flourish. That system was changed up a bit more when VY graduated and McCoy took over. When McCoy takes his final snap on Thursday, the work will begin on how to tweak the current system to fit the skills of Garrett Gilbert. (not as good of a runner, but a cannon for an arm) The difference with Texas and Georgia in this respect is that we have changed the system knowing that we have a couple of years (at the least) with the same QB. It would be difficult for GA to do the same for a SR QB.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 3, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't see what is so diffcult to understand
The SEC, as a conference, lacks difference-makers, i.e. elite players, at the QB position. Right now, you have Tebow and Mallett, and then nothing else in the conference. ou keep bringing up the SEC QBs in the NFL, but players who played in their college ball over 10 years ago (Peyton Manning), are irrelevant to the SEC RIGHT NOW. I’m not talking about the SEC ten years ago, I’m talking about the SEC RIGHT NOW, and RIGHT NOW the SEC lacks elite difference-making QBs at the college level.
How do we define a difference-making elite QB at the college level? Stats can tell part of the story, as can wins. Honestly, it isn’t too difficult, if you are a college football fan, to watch a team play and be able to tell if the offense is built around a playmaking QB, or if the QB is just asked to be a game-manager. The SEC is filled with game-managers at QB, with the exception of Tebow and Mallett.
As for saying texas doesn’t play a multiple-read offense where the QB has to go through his progressions, you really don’t know what you’re talking about there. texas’ offense is based off of West Coast Offense-principles, many of which they copied from the NFL game.
A&M’s offense was based off a pro-set attack last year, although we operated more out of the shotgun this year. We still do some series from gun-under. Our coaches actually brought their offense directly form the FL, but had to simplify the terminology, because you don’t need so many tags in the college game.
Matt Stafford was never really an elite college QB; he was a kid who had a cannon arm and was a pro prospect the minute he arrive din Athens; he left Athens the same way he came, just three years older. I like Mark Richt a lot as a coach, but I didn’t see a lot of development with Stafford. He was drafted based on his pro potential, not on his college production.
by Beergut on Jan 3, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are an ass. As soon as you bring up "right now"
you then diminish the skills and accomplishments of our difference-making, playmaking QB of LAST year. You and Thomas Brown deserve each other.
“never really an elite QB…didn’t see a lot of development…He was drafted based on his pro potential, not on his college production.” 2008 had virtually the same as Heisman candidate Colt McCoy’s production this year, my friend. As with AJ Green, do a little homework on players before you make such idiotic judgments.
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what does this mean?
2008 had virtually the same as Heisman candidate Colt McCoy’s production this year, my friend.
That is incomprehensible.
As with AJ Green, do a little homework on players before you make such idiotic judgments.
As far as Green goes, you guys can’t have it both ways. If we play no defense in the Big 12, then Green was shut down by a Big 12 team that doesn’t play defense, so he isn’t a very good WR. If Green is a good receiver, and a Big 12 defense was able to shut him down, then you nust concede my point that part of the problem with SEC offenses is you lack difference-makers at the QB position, so you run simplistic schemes that allow them to be game-managers, schemes which make it easier to defend Green.
Furthermore, if you read my original post again, you’ll see that I didn’t say anything bad about Green, I just said I think we have two wide receivers on our team who are just as good or better than he is. This is more me complimenting our players than denigrating your player, but y’all seem far too reactionary to realize this fact.
by Beergut on Jan 4, 2010 5:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore...
From wikipedia, even…
The West Coast offense requires a quarterback who throws extremely accurately, and often blindly, very close to opposing players. In addition, it requires the quarterback to be able to quickly pick one of 5 receivers to throw to — much more quickly than previously used systems. Often, the quarterback cannot think about the play, but instead reacts instinctively — and thus is often UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, CALLING THE PLAY FOR HIM.
This is in contrast to the previous quarterback requirements of other systems, which were an adept game manager and a strong arm."
by rbubp on Jan 3, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are fighting a battle that can't be won my friend.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 3, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Elite = wins...
okay, so the level of competition means nothing. I think, in our disparaging of your conference, have determined the Big XII to be less than extraordinary in terms of depth and defensive prowess. So yes, Colt may have the wins record, but what does that mean? Who has he beaten of significance? Ohio State? Don’t tell us the OSU is a proof of his elite status. Who has Bradford beaten? I remember him getting beaten by Tebow and Florida last year.
by rxmaster on Jan 3, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So yes, Colt may have the wins record, but what does that mean? Who has he beaten of significance?
Everyone on his schedule this year?
by NeTexHorn on Jan 4, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PAUL 'BEAR' BRYANT
“OFFENSE SELLS TICKETS, DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!”
But I guess in the Big 12’s case, it does neither. The SEC led the nation for something insane like 12 straight year in home attendance. Sorry, you guys can keep fighting the big10 for most overrated conference. Thats gotta mean something right?
by T-Rey on Jan 2, 2010 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Joe Cox is a mediocre QB which makes UGA very beatable (see OSU game).
AJ Green is a great WR who got held in check that day, so be it.
Jeff Fuller will be a first round draft pick as will Green.
No one on this blog cares about tu or who they played this year. I wil be rooting for Bama to kill them.
Bringing up Peyton Manning is ironic because his last college game featured his teammates faking injuries and quitting on him while NU ran it down their throat.
29 is indeed half of 58.
Aggie special teams and defense have been atrocious all year. The only thing that was surprising was the extent of the special teams meltdown.
Consecutive 8-win seasons? Are you Texas Tech?
The Big 12 played no defense last year. This year Nu, tu, and OU all had very good defenses. Of course, UGA made everyone think that OSU had a good defense for a week.
Mark Richt does deserve a lot of credit for just running the FB dive late in the game when our defense was obviously exhausted. A very classy move on his part.
I predicted UGA would win this game 34-17 so I was a little off. UGA was not quite as good as I thought they would be but our special teams made sure that did not matter.
I am not sure how 1 is 1/3 of 2 but I don’t think
the guy who wrote that actually went to UGA.
How can you quantify how many UGA fans watched the game on tv? Of there were 3 times as many AGgies at the game than UGA fans, then why would anyone think that UGA fans had a bigger impact on the Shreveport economy? Did the Georgia fans just have a much worse time at the tables?
Most UGA fans I met were very classy and made the trip very enjoyable.
That WR recruit who is in the under armour all America game should team with Green to give you one of the top receiving tandems in the nation.
by miketag on Jan 2, 2010 5:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
UGA was not quite as good as I thought they would be but our special teams made sure that did not matter.
You made the mistake of thinking UGA was ‘good’. We were terrible this year. That’s why you’re getting so much flak from UGA fans… TAMU lost to a terrible Georgia team by 24 points. Special teams or offense, points are points… and it could have been worse.
That said, I think the world of TAMU fans. It’s your team that needs work, not your fanbase. Well, except for this blogger.
by Kansas_Dawg on Jan 3, 2010 3:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still, I expect you to have your typical UGA athletes on the field. That is why I wanted this game, so our freshman would see what is needed to play at an elite level at least athletically.
by miketag on Jan 3, 2010 3:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone notice that Beergut has NO DETAILS, just his biased opinion ?
SEC Willie Gault 4.1 in 40-yard dash Tennessee vols Griffin GA
SEC Bo Jackson Auburn 4.18 in 40-yard dash Official NFL Combine 1987.
SEC Donte Stallworth Tennessee vols 4.22 speed 40 at 2003 Pro Day.
SEC Herschel Walker 4.25 in the 40-yard dash, 238 lbs.
SEC Julio Jones Alabama 4.25 in the 40-yard dash. 6’ 4"
SEC Trindon Holliday LSU 4.27 in the 40-yard dash.
SEC Champ Bailey UGA Bulldogs 4.28 NFL Combine 1999 per NFL.
SEC Braden Smith UGA Bulldogs 4.28 in the 40-yard dash. Freshman.
SEC Jeff Demps Florida 4.3 in the 40-yard dash.
SEC Dexter McCluster Ole Miss 4.32 speed in the 40-yard dash verified.
SEC Asher Allen UGA Bulldogs 4.33 in 40-yard dash Pro-Scout day 2009.
SEC Reggie Brown UGA Bulldogs 4.36 in 40-yard dash Pro-Scout day 2005.
Bowl Games this Season :
SEC Ole Miss 21 Big XII Oklahoma State 7 Cotton Bowl 1/2/2010.
SEC UGA Bulldogs 44 Big XII Texas A&M 20 Independence 12/28/09.
SEC 2-0 vs. Overrated Big XII.
Bowl Games last Season :
SEC Florida 24 Big XII Oklahoma 14 BCS Title Game 1/8/09.
SEC Ole Miss 47 Big XII Texas Tech 34 Cotton Bowl 1/2/09.
SEC Alabama 30 Big XII Colorado 24 Independence 12/30/08.
SEC 3-0 vs. Overrated Big XII.
There is no reason to suspect that Texas will beat Alabama this season, either.
SEC has the MOST BOWL WINS this Season 5.
Big XII has FEWER BOWL WINS this Season 4.
The reason ?
Because The SEC BEAT the Big XII, twice so far with 1 game to go.
Colt McCoy and Texas is NCAA Number 80 in being sacked this season.
- 80 giving up Sacks Texas Colt McCoy.
Colt McCoy and Texas is NCAA Number 55 in Rushing Yards.
- 55 Rushing Offense Texas Colt McCoy.
2008 BCS Title Game SEC N.C. Florida SEC.
2007 BCS Title Game SEC N.C. LSU SEC.
2006 BCS Title Game SEC N.C. Florida SEC.
The last 3 Consecutive BCS Title Game National Championships SEC.
Colt McCoy by far threw the MOST PASSES this season.
Colt McCoy threw 12 Interceptions against a SOFT SCHEDULE.
Texas did NOT even PLAY 1 single BCS Conference Opponent outside Big XII.
Give me a break.
No BCS Conference Opponent, and threw 12 Interceptions.
12 Interceptions is the WORST in the COUNTRY.
Texas NCAA Official Strength of Schedule is NOT in the Top 25.
Obviously.
Colt McCoy TD Percentage as a Percentage of his PASSES THROWN is 5.
5 Percent of Colt McCoy’s PASSES THROWN are TD for WORST IN COUNTRY.
Why is Colt McCoy WAY BEHIND SEC Leaders such as Tim Tebow and Ryan Mallett in Quarterback Ratings ?
Because Colt McCoy THROWS THE BALL UP FOR GRABS against WEAK OPPONENTS.
Has his Passes INTERCEPTED 12 TIMES against WEAK OPPONENTS.
Does NOT throw TOUCHDOWNS against WEAK OPPONENTS.
468.
Colt McCoy threw 468 PASSES which is the MOST IN THE COUNTRY.
PASS HAPPY Big XII.
It is what you do.
It is ALL you do.
WEAK OPPONENTS.
It is what you do.
It is ALL you do.
Colt McCoy has NOT beat 1 single SEC team in a Bowl Game EVER.
Arkansas was 13-12 in The SEC the previous 2 years.
That is the ONLY SEC team Colt McCoy has played in his ENTIRE CAREER.
Texas has NOT BEAT 1 single team in the Polls ranked in the Top 18 or so.
Alabama has BEAT Florida who is obviously about Number 2 or 3 and Virginia Tech who is obviously about Number 8 or 9.
Alabama is Number 12 in the nation in Rushing the football.
- 12 Rushing Offense Alabama.
CLASSIC SEC Big XII match-up.
1 conference who plays nothing but patsies pansies cupcakes and CANNOT RUN the football, who BEAT NO ONE and does NOTHING but THROW THE FOOTBALL UP FOR GRABS who has NO OFFENSIVE LINE and cannot block for RUN or PASS.
Against the Acknowledged LEADER in COLLEGE FOOTBALL who BEAT SEVERAL TOP 10 TEAMS ALREADY coming to the CREAM to the TOP of The TOUGHEST CONFERENCE, who BEAT the Big XII like a DRUM both this Bowl Season and last Bowl Season and ALL-TIME, who actually CAN RUN the football and CONTROL the CLOCK with NOTHING BUT NFL OL.
I love the guy up top here who says he will TELL US ALL WHO the ONLY QB from the Big XII is.
While The SEC DOMINATES on days like today, Sunday with 15 QB playing.
COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
What did these COLLEGE QUARTERBACKS do in COLLEGE ?
(1)Kicked the butts of the Big XII, head to head.
(2)Actually BEAT Top 10 teams.
(3)Actually DON’T throw the ball UP FOR GRABS with 12 Interceptions.
(4)Actually PLAYED a Top 25 Strength of Schedule and WON against it.
(5)Actually have FAR BETTER Quarterback Ratings.
(6)Proof ? NFL says they are FAR BETTER.
(7)Run an Offense vs good opponents that is BALANCED.
Texas A&M you told us was the NCAA Number 5 Total Offense in the Nation.
20-44 vs. SEC speed.
20-44 vs. SEC Balanced attack.
20-44 vs. SEC reasonable opponent who played good teams.
20-44 vs. SEC seasoned team FL GT OkS AZ S Ark SoCar LSU TN KY Aub
6 of the Top 9 teams in Recruiting Rankings today are SEC.
Big XII 0-2 vs. SEC this year in Bowl Games. Didn’t want to say that, did you ?
Big XII 0-3 vs. SEC last year in Bowl Games. Didn’t want to say that, did you ?
SEC was already ahead of the Big XII in Bowl Games.
We always have been.
Now, we have WON 5 more Bowl Games and LOST ZERO head-to-head last year and this year, again.
But, of course, the Big XII is better because they play CUPCAKES, CREAM PUFFS, POWDER PUFFS and run up their record throwing the ball on every down against nobody football teams, like TEXAS THIS YEAR.
How can Texas have played NO BCS Conference Opponent outside Big XII all year ?
And, yet have 12 Interceptions.
And, yet be only Number 55 in rushing the football.
And, yet only have 5 percent of their passes be for a TD.
And, yet be Number 80 in giving up sacks.
To see Big XII HOMERS say, Texas will win.
Big XII has ALREADY LOST 4 BCS TITLE Games National Championships.
SEC 5-0 BCS Title Games National Championships.
It’s easy to look good playing WEAK OPPONENTS. What’s hard is to LOOK BAD playing WEAK OPPONENTS being # 55 running the ball, throwing only 5 percent of your passes for TD, getting sacked at a rate to make you # 80 in the nation giving up sacks AGAINST WEAK SCHEDULE.
Why is the Big XII over-rated ?
Why do Big XII fans have flimsy arguments about their conference ?
Because the Big XII plays WEAK OPPONENTS, beats NO GOOD TEAM, cannot make it into the NFL with their players, has no one watching their games as determined by the Nielson Ratings God do you guys know NOTHING, and because you ALWAYS LOSE to The SEC.
No wonder you have a chip on your shoulder.
T-Rey, think I saw name at end, not beginning. Obviously, there is ONLY 1 Big XII HOMER on this blog, Beergut. I am not used to blogs where it doesn’t say by and then what they said.
Well Beergut, this has been fun son. You clearly have maintained this B.S. through-out while The SEC has WON BOTH BOWL GAMES ONCE AGAIN, Beergut. 3’s coming again this year, JUST AS THE SEC BEAT THE BIG XII ALL 3 GAMES LAST YEAR.
4 SEC National Championships the ENTIRE CAREER of Colt McCoy.
Chew on that one.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 4:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your parents know your on the computer this early?
by NeTexHorn on Jan 3, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"your" ???????????????????????
How old are you ?
8 ?
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the Big XII does NOT have a winning bowl record ALL-TIME
SEC 7-6 over Big XII in Cotton Bowls.
SEC 8-2 over Big XII in Independence Bowl.
SEC 2-0 over Big XII in BCS Title Games.
SEC 17-8 over Big XII head-to-head in Bowl Games All-Time.
.68 Winning Percentage SEC over Big XII in Bowl Games.
.32 wining percentage Big XII over SEC in Bowl Games.
More than 2 to 1 SEC over Big XII in Bowl Games head-to-head.
The Big XII as a matter of fact is the WORST conference in bowl games.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 9:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think beergut and I would both agre that the Big 12 is the worst major conference in college football. That has nothing to do with this story.
by miketag on Jan 3, 2010 3:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yes it does have everything to do with this story of that ONLY the Big XII drafts college QBs
Right now in college football Recruiting Rankings of Quarterbacks shows that Tennessee has an excellent College Quarterback coming in in 3 weeks, so too does Auburn, South Carolina and Alabama.
Last year, 2009, shows that LSU, UBA Bulldogs and Auburn had the best Quarterbacks in the United States – NOT the Big XII. In fact, Kentucky, Ole Miss and Mississippi State also signed the very Elite Top College Quarterbacks in 2009.
2008 Alabama, Arkansas, Ole Miss, South Carolina and LSU recruited the Elite Top College Quarterbacks in the nation. This are the same Quarterbacks who beat the Big XII 3-0 in Bowl Games last year and have already gone 2-0 vs. the Big XII again this year, with one game remaining – the Elite Top Rated College Quarterbacks you will see beat the living daylights out of the Big XII quarterbacks 4 days from now for the 4th Consecutive SEC BCS Title Game National Championship.
2007 it was Florida, Arkansas, Auburn and Georgia who signed the Elite College Quarterbacks. Because of the Quarterbacks ahead of them, because THE SEC RECRUITS FAR BETTER THAN THE BIG XII, you haven’t seen all these Quarterbacks either. And, because the Big XII is a pass happy league of playing cupcakes and running up your record, ONLY TO GET YOUR BUTTS BEAT BY THE SEC, doesn’t make your FEWER and WORSE College Quarterbacks BETTER or Elite.
2006, it was Georgia, Florida, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn and South Carolina who RECRUITED the Elite Top College Quarterbacks.
Then, you come into this blog, AND INSTEAD OF THE SEC DOMINATING IN RECRUITING, it is all of a sudden the Big XII.
That’s B.S.
The definition of Elite College Quarterbacks to all the Recruiting Sources paid MILLIONS to know, has now been made clear to you – NOT 10 YEARS AGO, but TODAY.
This 2010 signing class 3 weeks from now.
The 2009 class.
The 2008 class.
The 2007 class.
The 2006 class.
THESE are the Elite Quarterbacks going into the NFL.
THESE are the Elite Quarerbacks who have produced now this year, 4 Consecutive National Championships for The SEC.
And, THESE are the Elite Quarterbacks who have beat the living daylights out of the Big XII on the field head-to-head.
If you don’t know how to go to any recruiting WebPages, and sort on Quarterbacks, then you are doomed to sit there happy in your ignorance that what you wish were true, is true, when what the truth is is that The SEC kicks your Big XII butt Recruiting the Elite College Quarterbacks; and that because The SEC also WAY OUT-RECRUITS the Big XII on Defense, that our Defenses actually can play Defense – unlike the Big XII.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 3, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t know how to go to any recruiting WebPages, and sort on Quarterbacks, then you are doomed to sit there happy in your ignorance that what you wish were true, is true, when what the truth is is that The SEC kicks your Big XII butt Recruiting the Elite College Quarterbacks; and that because The SEC also WAY OUT-RECRUITS the Big XII on Defense, that our Defenses actually can play Defense – unlike the Big XII.
That is one long ass sentence.
by NeTexHorn on Jan 3, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides Thomas Brown...
The UGA fans just pwnd you on your own site, beergut.
However, the silly “SEC” chants need to stop. The only reason that I could imagine teams such as Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, and the rest of the awful to, at best, mediocre teams in the SEC not named Alabama or Florida would chant SEC is because that is all they have left. It appears to me (and I’m sure others) that the SEC chant is simply an excuse for not being half decent. If Texas were to win on Thursday, I’m pretty sure you won’t hear them chanting “Big…12”, instead it will be “TEXAS…FIGHT” because I bet they only care about themselves and winning for Texas, not for the Big 12. Don’t get me wrong – conference pride is okay; but taken to this level is just idiotic.
by Hobbes881 on Jan 4, 2010 1:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Who cares???!
This 120 comment post lost it’s focus on A&M football, or A&M sports in any regard a long time ago. I can see you being a diehard fan of a team, but really, a conference?
Arguing with stats, historical records, matchups, draft picks, NFL career records, and whatever else you can wikipedia in order to battle for your conference is where this whole online sports blogging loses me. Take a step back, and possibly invest your time in a different activity.
by carsondude on Jan 4, 2010 2:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hobbes881, what team are you a fan of ? Not proud of it, as I Thomas Brown UGA
You left off TB UGA. Ok ? Tell me the team you are a fan of and name the WIN you have over any Elite Team ? Go ahead. I will wait.
UGA Bulldogs did beat ACC Champions Georgia Tech playing in a BCS Bowl tomorrow night.
If you think we, and I do not take pleasure from having BEAT Georgia Tech, think again.
Coach Richt Era now stands at 90-27.
Coach Richt Era now stands at 7-2 in Bowl Games.
UGA Bulldogs also beat Auburn an 8-5 team.
So, if you think that I am sitting here running on the coat tails of Alabama and Florida when I say
SEC SEC SEC,
think again.
There is NO TEAM in the Big XII who beat an Elite Team AT ALL.
Let alone a Top 10 team, such as Georgia Tech, ACC Champions.
90-27.
You want to name for me the teams who are better in the Coach Richt Era ?
Better than your Elite status of 90-27 for UGA.
You see in The SEC, we have
Florida
Alabama
LSU
UGA Bulldogs
Auburn
You go down the list of teams with the most wins starting 2001 when we hired Coach Richt as our head coach, and the Big XII Number 5 team is Number 40 on the list Missouri.
and to some extent Tennessee coming back.
Half the Conference.
Big XII has Texas and Oklahoma, whom we SEC teams beat like a drum every year.
UGA has played in the Coach Richt Era, 3 BCS Bowls in these 9 years of 90-27 and we Won 2 of the 3 unlike the lousy stinking Big XII in bowl games to be 7-2 in Coach Richt Bowl Games.
UGA has 2 SEC Championships.
You have no understanding what 2 SEC Championships means in Coach Richt’s 9 years.
You just sit there and look at Texas and Oklahoma and think the Big XII is almost as good as The SEC is.
You have to go a LONG WAY DOWN THE ELITE CHART after Texas and Oklahoma to find another Big XII team in the 9 years of Coach Richt 90-27.
Texas, that 1 team has 1 more Bowl win than UGA in the Coach Richt 9-Year Era. And, still Texas does NOT have more Bowl Wins than UGA’s 26.
UGA Bulldogs you say Hobbes881, are an also ran SEC team riding on the coat tails of Alabama and Florida, however when you compare what Coach Richt has done to what the Big XII teams have done, even this also ran SEC team has kicked the butts of the Big XII in the Coach Richt last 9 years.
Haven’t we ?
UGA Bulldogs have MORE BOWL WINS than ALL Big XII teams.
UGA Bulldogs have MORE in the NFL than ALL Big XII teams.
UGA Bulldogs have 13 Consecutive Seasons of at least 8 wins, MORE consecutive years than ALL Big XII teams.
This is your definition of Elite Football Teams, and now this also-ran UGA team the 9 years of the Coach Richt Era has consistently held our own and done very well compared to all the Big XII teams.
Haven’t we ?
And, even this year, we BEAT a Top 10 team, Conference Champion ACC Champ Georgia Tech and THAT IS A BETTER WIN THAN ALL THE BIG XII TEAMS have managed this year.
4 SEC BCS National Championships in a ROW, the entire career of Colt McCoy and his 12 interceptions beating NO ONE, not even playing a BCS Conference foe out of conference and his 80 th worst number of times Colt McCoy has been sacked with his only 5 percent of his passes for a TD.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 4, 2010 3:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
If you think anyone actually takes the time to read all of that, you are silly. You seriously have to have wasted at least a full 24 total hours posting the same facts over…and over…and over again. I don’t think anyone has made it halfway through any of your posts.
I prefer to remain an unbiased spectator, and not tell you what team I am a fan of, because it doesn’t matter with regards to the specified conversation.
In regards to Texas, you are right they didn’t play any BCS non-conference opponents this year. However, they were scheduled to play Arkansas at home, and Arkansas backed out, and said they would rather play Texas A&M in Dallas. Chalk one up for the SEC, right?
And Utah backed out on Texas too, and while I’m not making excuses for a weak nonconference schedule, you shouldn’t come here pretending like you are the know-it-all sports guru you seem to think you are.
If you think Auburn and LSU are “elite teams” then so are OU, Nebraska, and Texas A&M. Just as many wins overall, and tradition as those SEC teams you listed. In fact, the Big 12 has 2 of the top 5 programs in total wins, and 3 of the top 10. The SEC checks in at #6, with…you guessed it Alabama. I am saying that this year, THIS YEAR, (read it one more time, THIS YEAR) teams like UGA, Auburn, USC and all the other teams besides Florida and Alabama chant SEC because if the SEC wins a BCS national title, everyone of the mediocre to awful SEC teams gets to use it as an excuse that they lost more than 2 or 3 games because they are in the SEC.
And please tell me – which SEC team beat Texas like a drum? And OU? Sure, Florida beat OU 24-14 in the last national title, but they were not beaten like a drum. The Sooners had plenty of chances to score, they just didn’t execute in the redzone. Only idiots like you think OU was dominated in that game.
Oh and real quick there buddy, how did UGA face playing Oklahoma State? Ohhhhhhh that’s what I thought.
by Hobbes881 on Jan 4, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ELITE teams in College Football are Number 1 Alabama & soon to be Number 2 Florida.
Alabama beat Number 8 Virginia Tech and Number 2 Florida.
Texas’ claim to fame is that they beat Nebraska Number 22 currently who beat NO TEAM in the Final AP Polls any of the 4 years that Ndamukong Suh played 54 games at Nebraska.
As for beating like a DRUM, SEC has now this season won 4 BCS Title Game National Championships in a Row, while the Big XII is the WORST with 4 LOSSES already soon to be 5 in the BCS Title Game National Championship Game and won only 2, while The SEC has Won already 5 without a LOSS and soon to be 6 wtihout a loss.
In other bowl games this season, now, The SEC is already 2-0 vs. The Big XII and last year we were 3-0 vs. The Big XII in Bowl Games. It will be 3-0 the last 2 Consecutive Years head to head SEC against the mighty Big XII. If that is not beating a conference like a drum, even though you scatter in your B.S. about UGA I am without having the PAIR to admit your team not nearly as good as UGA, please pray tell what is ?
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 5, 2010 3:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Big XII Elite Football Conference doesn't have the Most Bowl Wins this Season, SEC does
PAC-10 has LOST 5 Bowl Games, for the most losses by a Conference.
SEC has WON 5 Bowl Games, for the MOST WINS by a Conference & 1 to go.
Yeah, right UGA Bulldogs didn’t have anything to do with this, or our Bowl Win Number 26, which NO Big XII team has more.
Let me know when a Big XII team has 26 Bowl Wins, let alone all 26 for representing the Big XII in a bowl game, will you ?
Let me know when a Big XII team has 45 in the NFL, like how many go to the NFL DOES NOT MATTER one iota.
Let me know when the Big XII mighty as it is, Wins 4 BCS Title Game National Championsips in a Row ?
Let me know when the mighty Big XII BEATS ANY TOP 10 TEAM EVEN any year ?
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 4, 2010 4:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
"mighty Big XII" wins this year ?
Nebraska will NOT have beat a single Top 25 team in the Final Polls. None.
Texas ?
Texas beat only Nebraska.
What does that tell you ?
Those are your ONLY 2 ranked teams in the only Polls published for 2009-2010 season.
SEC has probably # 1 and # 2 teams, and if we do, The NC Game has already been played.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 4, 2010 4:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
There is NO shame in losing to teams like Alabama and Florida
There IS SHAME however, if the only team in the Final Polls you beat BEAT NO RANKED TEAM.
It is FAR BETTER to play Top 10 teams and for UGA Bulldogs to HAVE BEAT ACC CHAMPIONS GEORGIA TECH. That is pride in UGA Bulldogs.
Therefore, there is SHAME on Big XII and SHAME on Texas and SHAME on Nebraska.
NO SHAME on UGA.
Good try.
That’s the whole point.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 4, 2010 4:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
UGA Bulldogs' Win over Number 9 Georgia Tech a LOT better than ANY Big XII win this yr.
There is NO WIN by ANY Big XII team over ANY TEAM in ANY CONFERENCE that even begins to compare with UGA Bulldogs’ WIN over Number 9 Georgia Tech, ACC CHAMPIONS.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 4, 2010 4:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Using this guy's logic, Joe Cox is a better QB than Jerrod Johnson.
Using this guy’s logic, Joe Cox is a better QB than Jerrod Johnson.
Cox: 15/28 (53.6%) 2td/1int 117.40 qb rating
Johnson: 29/58 (50%) 2td/2int 106.91 qb rating
by cbrock on Jan 4, 2010 8:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think even UGA fans would make that claim
if you offered them a straight up trade, Cox for Johnson, they’d take Johnson, no question.
Hell, I think Richt would say that same thing.
by Beergut on Jan 4, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who did Texas Beat ? Nebraska who beat NO Final AP Poll Top 25 team in 4 years now !
Alabama beat Number 8 Virginia Tech and Number 2 Florida.
Texas’ claim to fame is that they beat Nebraska Number 22 currently who beat NO TEAM in the Final AP Polls any of the 4 years that Ndamukong Suh played 54 games at Nebraska.
As for beating like a DRUM, SEC has now this season won 4 BCS Title Game National Championships in a Row, while the Big XII is the WORST with 4 LOSSES already soon to be 5 LOSSES in the BCS Title Game National Championship Game and won only 2, while The SEC has Won already 5 without a LOSS and soon to be 6 without a loss.
In other bowl games this season, now, The SEC is already 2-0 vs. the Big XII and last year we were 3-0 vs. The Big XII in Bowl Games. It will be 3-0 the last 2 Consecutive Years head to head SEC against the mighty Big XII. If that is not beating a conference like a drum, please pray tell what is ?
I have seen no attempt to refute that the Big XII plays CUPCAKES, and BEATS NO teams in the Final AP Poll Top 25, and LOSES its Bowl Games to The SEC – like this game we are reviewing here for UGA Bulldogs’ 26 Bowl Victories now that NO Big XII team has 26 Bowl Wins like UGA Bulldogs as a direct result of this game in review on this blog.
UGA Bulldogs even BEAT ACC Champions playing tonight Georgia Tech at Georgia Tech this year, and they are Number 9. Where is the win like THAT by Nebraska or Texas ? They don’t have a win like that, and that remains the point.
Florida beat Number 3 Undefeated Big East Champions.
Ole Miss beat and knocked Oklahoma State out of the Final AP Poll Top 25.
Alabama is the Champion of The SEC and beat ALL these teams, while Texas beat Nebraska who beat NO ONE.
Don’t bother to come back after the game 2 nights from now, because it is obvious you don’t have any reply you can come up with for why the Big XII cannot beat ranked teams who beat ranked teams to be in the BCS Title Games with only a 2-4 record compared to The SEC 5-0 including twice beating the Big XII including 2003 and last year.
UGA Bulldogs are 90-27 under Coach Richt 9 years, average 10 wins, and have won 2 SEC Championships already and we have won 2 of our 3 BCS Bowl Games under Coach Richt. We have 45 in the NFL. We have won at least 8 games plus for 13 consecutive years in The SEC and that is the longest streak currently.
The SEC has Won 5 Bowl Games, more than any other Conference while the PAC-10 has LOST 5 Bowl Games for the Most LOSSES. Among The SEC’s Most Bowl Wins last year and this year are so far 5-0 against The Big XII including ESPECIALLY this game in Review on THIS BLOG 44-20, a complete WIPE-OUT of the Big XII a beating like a DRUM of the Big XII by The SEC UGA Bulldogs, our win in a Bowl Game Number 26, which NO Big XII team has 26 Bowl Wins, like even little UGA Bulldogs of The SEC. UGA Bulldogs Football also has a 976 Academic Progress Rate, APR, which we are proud of this year. 2 years ago, LSU was Number 1 and UGA Bulldogs Number 2 in the Final AP Poll National Championship, and the Big XII has NEVER ACCOMPLISHED THAT, although The SEC will do it again this year Alabama 1 and Florida 2. The reason for this is because The SEC plays top-ranked teams and BEATS them while the Big XII BEATS NO ONE, and has proven beyond all shadow of the doubt with now this season 5 BCS Title Game Bowl Losses (3 to The SEC) that the Big XII does not deserve to even be in the damn NC Game. Texas who beat NO ONE while Alabama beat Number 8 Virginia Tech and Number 2 Florida for example, Texas gives up sacks of Colt McCoy at the alarming rate of NCAA Number 80 worst in the nation, manages only NCAA Number 55 Rushing Offense, and played admittedly a sorry butt schedule of BEATING no Top Ranked Team, not even close to sniffing a win over a top-ranked team.
Where is Texas’ win over Number 9 Georgia Tech, like UGA Bulldogs have ?
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 5, 2010 4:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I knew you would NOT be back in here after all your B.S. about the Big XII
SEC 6-0 in BCS National Championships Games, including 3-0 vs. the Big XII.
That includes both last year and this year SEC over Big XII in the BCS NC Game.
Hype about the Big XII.
Texas, now that the season is over beat not 1 team who beat a Final AP Poll Top 25 team. There is Nebraska who beat NO ONE.
Big XII in BCS National Championship Games HAS BEEN THE WORSE and now you are incredibly HORRIBLE.
Big XII in BCS National Championship Games is 2-5. (SEC 6-0.)
Who the hell do you think is better ?
For the record, Texas could not stop Mark Ingram or Richardson as both gained over 100 yards rushing.
Texas, on the other hand, in dire need of a running game (or 1 win against any good team who actually beat someone in the Final AP Poll Top 25), could not run at ALL against Alabama.
The Beat goes on, and I am quite certain this BLOG will go on with the HYPE of the Big XII.
I think if I hear another Big XII fan HYPE your lousy conference, I’ll PUKE.
by Thomas Brown UGA on Jan 7, 2010 11:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WAIT FOR IT....WAIT FOR IT....
SEC! SEC! SEC! Hahaha…if you don’t like the chant, all you gotta do is beat us.
by T-Rey on Jan 8, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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